Algo pasa con la ofensiva rusa. Está atascada

lowfour
lowfour
Started 2022-04-20
4339 posts
elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2022-04-30
#301

@lowfour (post #297)

la movida es que pueden ser 1000 o pueden ser 10 o 20

o ninguna!

hemos visto las mayores "dimitradas" en el ejército, incluso sus buques insignia (literalmente) han sido hundidos con relativa sencillez (vale, los neptuno igual son algo más que a lo que el moskva podía repeler)

está claro que se han quedado en 1990, no hay apenas evolución

y sus bombarderos? y sus aviones?

lees a bercipotecado y dice, pues los rusos usan todo analógico, y nosotros estamos ya digitalizando hasta los bolis

usan móviles chinos para comunicarse porque no tienen satélites (y ya no digamos encriptación, eso es muy digital, muy siglo xxi) y hasta los misiles guiados no son tan "guiados" como se les suponía (no les funciona su gps, que, efectivamente, es de los 90, empezaron a lanzarlos en los 80, pero no entraron en servicio hasta los 90, o sea, algo de calidad tenían, al menos al principio, hasta 1989)

así que, con estos mimbres, qué podemos esperar del estado de las ojivas??

1000 ojivas son 10 mil millones en mantenimiento (según los gringos), eso es mucha pasta para el presupuesto militar ruso, como un 25%

apostamos que no mantienen ni 100? y aun estas 100 andan justitas de material fisible??

que sí, son muchas, pero estoy seguro de que "saben" que solo tienen que hacer como que las tienen, y ya, porque ni usa ni nadie les va a tirar nada nunca

la disuasión es tener un par y hacer creer que tienes miles

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2022-04-30
#302

por eso están tan permisivos con todo el armamento que les está llegando a los ucros

al principio se fueron de la lengua, les pillamos el farol, ahora andan con más sutileza, y procuran no mencionar las nukes

salvo en el genocidame de luxe, claro

en fin, que tienen misiles, vale, cada vez menos, también... pero ojivas? y que funcionen?

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2022-04-30
#303
Edited 2022-04-30

https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1520426319145803776

ya lo dicen todos, siguen metiendo arsenal que es pre-90's

esa artillería es "analógica"

los rusos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/122mmhowitzer2A18(D-30)

vs

los ucranianos (cortesía yanki, que no manda lo mejor, que se lo quedan ellos, o eso dicen):https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M777howitzer

The M777 uses a digital fire-control system similar to that found on self-propelled howitzers such as the M109A6 Paladin to provide navigation, pointing and self-location, allowing it to be put into action quickly.

y ya no es que uno sea analógico y tengas que andar con ábacos y tablas y movidas para "apuntar", es que el ruso alcanza 15km y el otan 40km

los rusos van a estar a tiro de los ucranianos muchos km antes de poder alcanzarles

esto significa que, o interviene la aviación o los misiles esos supermolones, o vamos a ver una carnicería de las baterías artilleras rusas, como hemos visto t72 y t90 y t-loquesea de tanques

lowfour
lowfour
2022-04-30
#304
Edited 2022-04-30

Bueno, el mirror que es una basura auténtica, pero aquí lo dejo:

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-set-disappear-faces-26840059

Vladimir Putin set to 'disappear' as he faces surgery over cancer fears amid official warning

The Kremlin leader has been missing in recent days

Vladimir Putin will 'vanish' soon as he faces surgery over cancer fears, according to an extraordinary report coming out of Russia.

The Kremlin leader has been mainly seen in official government televised messages since he ordered the illegal invasion of Ukraine way back in February.

But he's been mysteriously hidden in recent days.

Read more: Fears Vladimir Putin may declare a new world war within days

And now, a mysterious Russian account on social media communication app Telegram has claimed this is down to him preparing for surgery.

The Mirror UK report that the extraordinary unconfirmed claims come from General SVR Telegram channel, which first raised issues of Putin’s health - including abdominal cancer and Parkinson’s - some 18 months ago.

They come amid speculation that Putin will announce all-out war in Ukraine, and order mass mobilisation of military-age men.

It is suggested Putin, 69, has already delayed surgery, which is now unlikely to take place before he presides over the grandiose Red Square 9 May Victory Day commemoration of the defeat of Hitler.

The surgery had been scheduled for the second half of April but was delayed, it was claimed.

Pero luego lees esto:

>

The guy set to replace him according to this article is the hawk of hawks in Russia. You certainly don't want him if you don't want Putin. You do not want Petrushev.

y esto

>

No one seems to get this. Vladimir Putin’s inner circle are all Siloviki whack jobs. Your best case scenario is that you get someone who realizes how bad things are in Ukraine and throws in the towel….but still hates the west and doubles down on rebuilding the military. Worst case scenario you get some ultranationalist fanatic that immediately starts mass conscription and actually thinks tactical nukes are a valid strategy.

>

No one has overlooked this. It's been the entire discussion since this started and the entire reason Poland is champing at the bit to march to Moscow. Replace the whole government

lowfour
lowfour
2022-04-30
#306
Edited 2022-04-30

Y mi amigo Suizo que se acaba de ir a vivir a Tallin. Menudo ojo tiene el cabrón.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/ufixab/natotransfersheavymilitaryequipmenttothe/

lowfour
lowfour
2022-04-30
#307

Ostia, otra vez el de las entrevistas, ahora con tres rusos reventaos... Muy heavy.

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2022-04-30
#308

@lowfour (post #304) bueeehh

esto es que los piolets son tamaño king size, eh?

porque se huelen que el putin entra en quirófano, pero no sale

o sale muy tocado y lo tienen que apartar de alguna manera no muy humillante

si ocurre, podrán retirarse de ucrania

salvo que pase esa opción chunga y empiecen a llover nukes (que no explotan, porque están caducadas)

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2022-04-30
#309

@lowfour (post #306) na, eso va camino ucrania

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2022-04-30
#310

@lowfour (post #307) pero eso es un reality de la televisón ucraniana o qué es??

lowfour
lowfour
2022-04-30
#311

Creo que el análisis este del otro foro es muy acertado. Tiene datos muy interesantes sobre la mentalidad de la Z. La liturgia constante sobre la victoria en la WW2 para meter de refilón el imperialismo y el llamar nazi a todo el que no se pliegue a la rusificación.

https://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria/threads/como-derrotar-a-putin.1749787/

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2022-05-01
#313

@lowfour (post #311) pues es un plagio de este hilo de 13 de marzo

https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1503053699798769666

yo creo que pone los caballos delante del carro en lo de las guerras victoriosas esas, o sea, no fue a consecuencia de la guerra que cayeron en desgracia, sino al revés, cayeron en la guerra porque ya estaban en decadencia (de hecho, los yankis andan un poco en la misma fase, se metieron en irak y afganistan justo cuando la burbuja iba a reventar y alargaron su desarrollo un par de años (de alguna manera, les funcionó) hasta 2008)

pero bueno, es interesante que haya un trasfondo "lazi"

los lazi definen su identidad anti-española de modo que al ser ellos anti-fascistas, españa solo puede ser facha

es la misma idea

no es muy diferente al clásico catolico vs protestante (o vs cualquier otro credo), por el cual yo soy el que "sabe" interpretar las sagradas escrituras, ergo el resto son "ignorantes" o "malvados", o sea, yo soy "el bueno"™ y el resto que no soy yo son "los malos"™

es más, en nuestra guerra civil, al ser el bando sublevado nacional-católico (y la guerra una cruzada, cómo no!), el marcador "chupacirios" era prueba de lealtad... si eras laico, eras enemigo, punto.

la otra pata es que puedes ser "católico" (muchos republicanos lo eran), pero hay que ser de los buenos, así que tienes que ir con esta bandera y estos valores y tal

la guerra de putin sobre ucrania es por el gas y los recursos, como siempre, aunque lo disfracen de "anti-nazismo"

y puede que también tenga esa dinámica decadente, puesto que si los soldados se maravillaban de que hubiera tablets y casas de ladrillo, eso es que en rusia andan muy mal de prosperidad, y esta guerra vendría a taparlo o algo así

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2022-05-01
#314
Edited 2022-05-01

@lowfour (post #312) jodo, cómo llueven obuses o lo que sea eso (misiles?)

lowfour
lowfour
2022-05-01
#315

@elarquitecto (post #314)

Parece ser cohetes de esos MLRS que crean el terror absoluto, pero menuda suerte han tenído. O pueden ser unas buenas baterías de armas guiadas. Les están dando a los rusos de su propia medicina. Anda que no les gustan a los vladimirs sus salvas de cohetes desde Afghanistán y tal.

lowfour
lowfour
2022-05-01
#316

Seguro que es agit-prop Ukra, pero imagínate que es verdad.... que al Geraniolov este le dan el curro y le dura 4 días.

https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1520461009265340423?refsrc=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1520464380210597890%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es2&refurl=

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2022-05-01
#317

@lowfour (post #316) https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1520704729919234049

así pensaban que iban a recibirles los ucros a los rusos, no?

vaya cabezas al mando del kremlin, no hacía falta ser un licenciao para saber que eso era una fantasía

lowfour
lowfour
2022-05-01
#319

Algo tendrá el agua para que la bendigan... El general Gerassimov igual ha sido ascendido de nuevo, esta vez hasta las mismísimas puertas de San Pedro.

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenkoen/status/1520734072418545664?refsrc=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1520734072418545664%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1&refurl=

LurkerIII
LurkerIII
2022-05-01
#320

@lowfour (post #318) Qué coño es eso del 1:01? Un plug anal con la cara de Putin?

lowfour
lowfour
2022-05-01
#321

@LurkerIII (post #320)

Jajajaja.. Puede ser, puede ser. Qué mejor tributo a la Z.

lowfour
lowfour
2022-05-01
#323
lowfour
lowfour
2022-05-01
#324
Edited 2022-05-01

Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces injured near Izyum - media


Ivan Boyko

14:55, 05/01/22

54867


Valery Gerasimov is urgently trying to evacuate from the Kharkov region.

Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation , was wounded on the territory of Ukraine, near Izyum, Kharkov region.

This was written by military journalist and blogger Alexander Shulman.

66-year-old Gerasimov received a shrapnel wound in the upper third of the right leg without a bone fracture. The chip was removed, there is no danger to life. Army General Gerasimov and other officers were sitting at the command post, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine delivered an accurate blow. According to preliminary information, 20 officers were killed.

The Telegram channel "Vertical" reports that the Chief of the Russian General Staff Gerasimov is trying to leave Izyum, where the Rashists are suffering huge losses, and their supplies have been interrupted.

Earlier, the Armed Forces of Ukraine destroyed more than 10 top Russian commanders, including at least six generals.

Barakaldokoa1
Barakaldokoa1
2022-05-01
#325

@lowfour (post #319)

No creo que en estas condiciones ascienda. mas bien lo contrario

lowfour
lowfour
2022-05-01
#326

Ojo que al parecer este vídeo que pusimos antes corresponde a la escabechina de altos mandos rusas incluyendo el Simonov (tenía cara de buena gente) y el Gerasimov.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/ufnij4/ukrainiansourcesareclaimingthisartillery/

lowfour
lowfour
2022-05-01
#327

Psicópatas invasores. Al primer día ya estaban asesinando, violando y robando lavadoras. A la escoria maligna esa ya le dieron matarile los Ukros al parecer.

lowfour
lowfour
2022-05-01
#328
Edited 2022-05-01

Sobre Gerasimov:

He was also the one who came up with the Gerasimov doctrine. In essence, he's the mastermind behind the election interference, troll farms, and Russia's overall military strategy. If Gerasimov is out of the fight, not only is it a major PR/morale win for Ukraine, but it means Russia can't hold on to any leadership whatsoever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerasimovdoctrine

The Gerasimov Doctrine, named after the Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces Valery Gerasimov, is a foreign policy doctrine.[1][2][3]

The doctrine redefines the modern concept of interstate conflict and warfare puts it on a par with political, economic, informational,[4] humanitarian and other non-military activities.[5][6][7][8] The doctrine became known after its publication in February 2013 and the subsequent actions of Russia in relation to Ukraine, which fully coincide with the theses of this doctrine.[1]

According to a number of researchers, the key elements of the Gerasimov Doctrine underlie the concept of New Generation Warfare.[9] However, there are opinions[10] that hybrid warfare is alien to Russian military theory.

Doctrine

The doctrine calls for a 4:1 ratio of non-military to military action.

Military action

  • - Military measures of strategic deterrence

  • - Strategic deployment.

  • - Warfare.

  • - peacekeeping operations.
  • Non-military actions

  • - Formation of coalitions and alliances.

  • - Political and diplomatic pressure.

  • - Economic sanctions

  • - Economic blockade

  • - Breakdown of diplomatic relations.

  • - Formation of political opposition.

  • - Action of opposition forces.

  • - Conversion of the economy of the country confronting Russia to the military rails.[Clarification needed]

  • - Finding ways to resolve the conflict.

  • - Changing the political leadership of the country confronting Russia.

  • - Implementation of a set of measures to reduce tensions in relations after the change of political leadership.

  • - In addition, the doctrine assumes "information confrontation," without specifying whether these activities are military or non-military.[11]
  • Evaluation of the doctrine by experts

    According to some experts,[17] its key elements are based on the historical roots of Russia's previous military doctrine and show a striking similarity to the provisions of China's "unlimited war" doctrine, published in 1999. It is believed that this doctrine can be seen as a reinterpretation in the realities of the 21st century of the well-known concept of unconventional warfare, which in modern Russian military terminology are called "nonlinear".[17]

    Within this framework, the main goal of "nonlinear warfare" is to achieve the desired strategic and geopolitical results, using a wide toolbox of non-military methods and means: explicit and covert diplomacy, economic pressure, winning the sympathy of the local population, etc.[17]

    According to the U.S. military, the "Gerasimov Doctrine" represents the most complete embodiment of the latest achievements of Russian military thought in a new type of warfare, which demonstrates the unprecedented integration of all capabilities of national influence to achieve strategic advantages. Based on the discreteness of the idea of war, which was established in Russian culture by Leo Tolstoy's classic novel War and Peace, the Gerasimov doctrine has blurred the lines between the polarized states of "war" and "peace," introducing a kind of analog to the Western idea of an intermediate continuum or "gray zone".[citation needed] American analysts point out that the Russian military's use of the new developments surprisingly inverts some of the fundamental paradigms of armed confrontation that were laid down in the works of Carl von Clausewitz and have been considered immutable for centuries.[16]

    For example, Clausewitz's definition of war as a "continuation of politics, but by other means" no longer applies in the "Gerasimov doctrine" because it does not consider war as a continuation of politics, but politics as a continuation of war, emphasizing that the effective conduct of politics may involve a broader arsenal of non-military means and methods. Similarly, the Gerasimov Doctrine forces a reconsideration of several other important tenets, such as Clausewitz's military-theoretical understanding of the "center of gravity" as a key point of effort.[16]

    Western experts were particularly concerned by the apparent focus of the Russian "Gerasimov doctrine" on exploiting the weak links of the Western principle of managerial decision making, which is based on a system of checks and balances that implies exhaustive analysis of the situation, lengthy public discussion and extensive coordination of the efforts of various agencies (the State Department, the Department of Defense, etc.).

    In contrast, the Russian model of governance, based on Gerasimov's ideas, seamlessly combines all the authoritative institutions, making coordination between them completely unencumbered.[citation needed] Their functioning is hidden from the outside observer by an impenetrable veil of secrecy, and the available tools use the applied achievements of Reflexive control, which allows the Russian authorities to act rigidly, flexibly and quickly, and not particularly distracted by such conventions as legality, legitimacy, etc..[citation needed]

    Application of the doctrine

    Given the release date of the Gerasimov report and Russia's subsequent actions, many experts are inclined to link these events and directly point to Russia's use of the doctrine against Ukraine[1] and the US.[3]

    elarquitecto
    elarquitecto
    2022-05-01
    #329
    Edited 2022-05-01

    @lowfour (post #323) esto se llama "escabechina" en mi pueblo

    madremia 20 high ranked officers de 40 al hoyo, eso es puntería o qué?

    parece que los movimientos que ves de la otan por ahí es porque esto se va a poner calentito a poco que aten cabos y vean que eso solo ha sido posible por a)chivatazo interno o b)la otan y sus satélites y tal

    en b lo mismo deciden tirar nukes o algo así

    LurkerIII
    LurkerIII
    2022-05-01
    #330

    Y mientras los ucranianos bombardean generales, los rusos bombardean silos de grano y fertilizantes:

    https://t.me/UkraineNow/10950

    https://t.me/suspilnednipro/4082

    Y otros objetivos civiles.

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