@lowfour (post #390)
sisi, hoy estoy muy negativo
pero yoquesé, ojalá solo sea eso y los trump magafanters un mal sueño, pero hoy solo veo guano máximo
Trump, Segundo Mandato: El Gordo se viene arriba - HILO OFICIAL
lowfour
Started 2025-01-12
717 posts
a ver, creo que lowfour tiene razón, estos son unos monguers premium que van a dejar a los lazis en seres de luz a este paso
esto lo venimos diciendo nosotros
trump es un agente ruso
el contubernio putin-trump es un hecho
el lenguaje no es el de la diplomacia, es el gangsteril
usa ha caido
Edited 2025-03-07
Estaba rulando hoy un (probablemente fake) supuesto post de alguien de inteligencia USAana diciendo que las purgas los habían desactivado, que el tema es que Putin tenía cogido a Trump por los huevos por lo de la ayuda a ganar las elecciones por oswalditos y ciberputis. Que si no tragaba con todo lo que le pedía, podían sacarlo a la luz (a Putin se la suda) y eso era punible incluso con pena de muerte.
Sonaba todo a invent de pajillero de 4chan, pero me hizo pensar que si, que probablemente lo de las elecciones (entre otras cosas) es lo que teme Trump. Además de que se cree un master chess player en infinitas dimensiones y que puede controlar a Putin (que le da mil vueltas en hijoputez).
Pero luego está rulando esto que es una investigación oficial:
https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/media/1366261/dl
Here’s a summary of the key takeaways from the **Doppelganger Affidavit**:
**Overview of the Case**
**Key Players**
**Disinformation Techniques**
**Cybersquatting & Fake News Sites**
**Influence Through Social Media**
**Targeting Key Countries & Elections**
**Legal Violations & Justifications for Seizure**
**Evidence Gathered**
**Conclusion**
Lo pongo en el hilo de las ciberputis tambien, pero aqui estan las campañas y consignas que usaron:
**1. Anti-Ukraine / Pro-Russia Messaging**
**Goal**: **Reduce international support for Ukraine** and shift blame for the war onto the U.S. and NATO.
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**2. Undermining U.S. and NATO Credibility**
**Goal**: Weaken trust in the U.S., NATO, and Western leadership.
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**3. U.S. 2024 Election Influence**
Several campaigns focused on **polarizing U.S. voters, discouraging support for Ukraine, and deepening divisions**.
**A. "The Good Old U.S.A. Project"**
**Goal**: Make Americans believe that **money should be spent on domestic issues instead of Ukraine**.
**B. "Guerrilla Media Campaign in the United States"**
**Goal**: Exploit existing U.S. **political divisions** and **polarization**.
**C. "U.S. Social Media Influencers Network"**
**Goal**: Build a **fake grassroots movement**.
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**4. Targeting U.S. Voters Through Mexico & Israel**
**Goal**: Influence ethnic and religious groups in the U.S. by targeting their home countries.
**A. “Mexico No Perdona” ("Mexico Does Not Forgive")**
**B. “Jewish Community Outreach” (Israel)**
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**5. Inciting Conflict in Germany and France**
**Goal**: Destabilize European politics and **increase anti-American sentiment**.
**A. Anti-Germany Propaganda**
**B. “International Conflict Incitement”**
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**6. Fake News & AI-Generated Content**
**Goal**: Use **AI-generated fake news, memes, and social media engagement** to make disinformation **look more authentic**.
@lowfour (post #394)
tío, si nosotros, que somos unos "mataos" lo vemos
vemos a los ciberputis trajinando
vemos las campañitas truchas
vemos todas estas movidas
ostiaputa, los servicios secretos, que tienen recursos y personal, qué cojones hacen??
Oye a mi no me mires eh??? Yo NoHECHONÁ
@lowfour (post #397)
pues mira, al final vas a tener razón tú y van a salir embreados y emplumados... en lugar de crear un 4 reich o algo así
@lowfour (post #397) La burbuja de IA está explotando ya, la siguiente es de computación cuántica (que es otra burbuja, no sé si igual de falsa porque hace tiempo que no he comprobado verazmente en qué punto se encuentra el desarrollo de procesadores, pero va a ser la siguiente burbuja en ese campo).
Una vez más que te lo dije y yo llevaba razón, si estos retrasados tuvieran tecnología verdaderamente revolucionaria y mágica para conseguir por fin la palanca de Sismondi (el sueño húmedo de los ricos desde el s.XVIII, que la tecnología permitiera reemplazar al 99% de trabajadores), la habrían usado ya con la administración de EEUU para lucirse, pero lo que les va a venir ahora es una tormenta de mierda resultado de tener cada vez más datos contaminados de mierda de su propio modelo de mierda y menos trabajadores arreglando los verdaderos problemas.
@elarquitecto (post #398)
Es como poner al frente de USA al subnormal fascista de la barbita de Extremadura, como se llamaba el mongolo ese?
vale ya han tenido la megabronca el mierda del Rubio con el megamierda del Musk que le cerró un departamento bajo su control sin decir nada. Al final son como "jefes intermedios" peleándose por tener esclavillos para sentirse hombres hechos y derechos. PUTO ASCO.
Inside the Explosive Meeting Where Trump Officials Clashed With Elon Musk
Simmering anger at the billionaire’s unchecked power spilled out in a remarkable Cabinet Room meeting. The president quickly moved to rein in Mr. Musk.
Marco Rubio was incensed. Here he was in the Cabinet Room of the White House, the secretary of state, seated beside the president and listening to a litany of attacks from the richest man in the world.
Seated diagonally opposite, across the elliptical mahogany table, Elon Musk was letting Mr. Rubio have it, accusing him of failing to slash his staff.
You have fired “nobody,” Mr. Musk told Mr. Rubio, then scornfully added that perhaps the only person he had fired was a staff member from Mr. Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency.
Mr. Rubio had been privately furious with Mr. Musk for weeks, ever since his team effectively shuttered an entire agency that was supposedly under Mr. Rubio’s control: the United States Agency for International Development. But, in the extraordinary cabinet meeting in front of President Trump and around 20 others — details of which have not been reported before — Mr. Rubio got his grievances off his chest.
Mr. Musk was not being truthful, Mr. Rubio said. What about the more than 1,500 State Department officials who took early retirement in buyouts? Didn’t they count as layoffs? He asked, sarcastically, whether Mr. Musk wanted him to rehire all those people just so he could make a show of firing them again. Then he laid out his detailed plans for reorganizing the State Department.
Mr. Musk was unimpressed. He told Mr. Rubio he was “good on TV,” with the clear subtext being that he was not good for much else. Throughout all of this, the president sat back in his chair, arms folded, as if he were watching a tennis match.
After the argument dragged on for an uncomfortable time, Mr. Trump finally intervened to defend Mr. Rubio as doing a “great job.” Mr. Rubio has a lot to deal with, the president said. He is very busy, he is always traveling and on TV, and he has an agency to run. So everyone just needs to work together.
The meeting was a potential turning point after the frenetic first weeks of Mr. Trump’s second term. It yielded the first significant indication that Mr. Trump was willing to put some limits on Mr. Musk, whose efforts have become the subject of several lawsuits and prompted concerns from Republican lawmakers, some of whom have complained directly to the president.
Cabinet officials almost uniformly like the concept of what Mr. Musk set out to do — reducing waste, fraud and abuse in government — but have been frustrated by the chain saw approach to upending the government and the lack of consistent coordination.
Thursday’s meeting, which was abruptly scheduled on Wednesday evening, was a sign that Mr. Trump was mindful of the growing complaints. He tried to offer each side something by praising both Mr. Musk and his cabinet secretaries. (At least one, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, who has had tense encounters related to Mr. Musk’s team, was not present.) The president made clear he still supported the mission of the Musk initiative. But now was the time, he said, to be a bit more refined in its approach.
From now on, he said, the secretaries would be in charge; the Musk team would only advise.
It is unclear what the long-term impact of the meeting will be. Mr. Musk remains Mr. Trump’s biggest political financial supporter — just this week his super PAC aired $1 million worth of ads that said, “Thank you, President Trump” — and Mr. Musk’s control of the social media website X has made administration staff members and cabinet secretaries alike fearful that he will target them in public.
But if nothing else, the session laid bare the tensions within Mr. Trump’s team, and news of the sharp clashes spread quickly through senior ranks of cabinet agencies after it was over. This account is based on interviews with five people with knowledge of the events.
In a post on social media after the meeting, Mr. Trump said the next phase of his plan to cut the federal work force would be conducted with a “scalpel” rather than a “hatchet” — a clear reference to Mr. Musk’s scorched-earth approach.
Mr. Musk, who wore a suit and tie to Thursday’s meeting instead of his usual T-shirt after Mr. Trump publicly ribbed him about his sloppy appearance, defended himself by saying that he had three companies with a market cap of tens of billions of dollars, and that his results spoke for themselves.
But he was soon clashing with members of the cabinet.
Just moments before the blowup with Mr. Rubio, Mr. Musk and the transportation secretary, Sean Duffy, went back and forth about the state of the Federal Aviation Administration’s equipment for tracking airplanes and what kind of fix was needed. Howard Lutnick, the commerce secretary, jumped in to support Mr. Musk.
Mr. Duffy said the young staff of Mr. Musk’s team was trying to lay off air traffic controllers. What am I supposed to do? Mr. Duffy said. I have multiple plane crashes to deal with now, and your people want me to fire air traffic controllers?
Mr. Musk told Mr. Duffy that his assertion was a “lie.” Mr. Duffy insisted it was not; he had heard it from them directly. Mr. Musk, asking who had been fired, said: Give me their names. Tell me their names.
Mr. Duffy said there were not any names, because he had stopped them from being fired. At another point, Mr. Musk insisted that people hired under diversity, equity and inclusion programs were working in control towers. Mr. Duffy pushed back and Mr. Musk did not add details, but said during the longer back and forth that Mr. Duffy had his phone number and should call him if he had any issues to raise.
The exchange ended with Mr. Trump telling Mr. Duffy that he had to hire people from M.I.T. as air traffic controllers. These air traffic controllers need to be “geniuses,” he said.
The secretary of veterans affairs, Doug Collins, has been dealing with one of the most politically sensitive challenges of all the cabinet secretaries. Mr. Musk’s cuts will affect thousands of veterans — a powerful constituency and a core part of the Trump base. Mr. Collins made the point that they should not wield a blunt instrument and cleave off everyone from the V.A. They needed to be strategic about it. Mr. Trump agreed with Mr. Collins, saying they ought to retain the smart ones and get rid of the bad ones.
In response to a request for comment from The New York Times, Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, said in a statement: “As President Trump said, this was a great and productive meeting amongst members of his team to discuss cost-cutting measures and staffing across the federal government. Everyone is working as one team to help President Trump deliver on his promise to make our government more efficient.”
Tammy Bruce, a spokeswoman for the State Department, responded, “Secretary Rubio considered the meeting an open and productive discussion with a dynamic team that is united in achieving the same goal: making America great again.”
A Department of Veterans Affairs spokesman said, “As President Trump has said, it’s important to increase efficiency and reduce bureaucracy while keeping in place the best and most productive federal employees. V.A. is working with DOGE and the rest of the administration to do just that.”
In a post on X on Friday, Mr. Duffy praised Mr. Trump and the work Mr. Musk’s team is doing and said it was an effective cabinet meeting. He added that “the DEI Department at the FAA was eliminated on day 2” and that Mr. Trump’s “approach of a scalpel versus a hatchet and better coordination between Secretaries and DOGE is the right approach to revolutionizing the way our government is run.”
Mr. Musk, who later claimed on X that the cabinet meeting was “very productive,” seemed far less enthused inside the room. He aggressively defended himself, reminding the cabinet secretaries that he had built multiple billion-dollar companies from the ground up and knew something about hiring good people.
Most cabinet members did not join the fray. Mr. Musk’s anger directed at Mr. Rubio in particular seemed to catch people in the room by surprise, one person with knowledge of the meeting said. Another person said Mr. Musk’s caustic responses to Mr. Duffy and Mr. Rubio seemed to deter other cabinet members, many of whom have privately complained about the Musk team, from speaking.
But it remains to be seen how long this new arrangement will last.
Edited 2025-03-09
No hemos comentado esto. Lo vi la primera vez y no lo postee porque no lo podía creer:
Básicamente un lapso freudiano donde reconoce que han tongao las elecciones, que es super obvio porque un montón de gente no votó, casi 90 millones creo que es la cifra.
They rigged the elections
@lowfour (post #405)
pero si es un puto delincuente, no debió presentarse y en algunos estados casi lo vetan, qué quieren ahora? que lo destituyan para poner al vance?? porque esa era la jugadita que nos tememos todos
Estoy totalmente en contra de lo que está haciendo el gordo en varios temas críticos como el de Palestina o el de Ucrania, pero las elecciones de 2024 sí que las ganó y las de 2020 se las robaron. Esta vez la diferencia era tan grande que no pudieron manipular las elecciones, como hicieron en 2020 y como les habría gustado en 2024. O directamente anular el resultado y prohibirle presentarse como han hecho en Rumanía.
Edited 2025-03-10
ESta es muy buena. Al parecer Trump además de ser un saco de mierda de persona, huele como un saco de mierda. Todo ello basado en el testimonio de un participante en el reality "The Apprentice" que firmó un NDA pero se la suda completamente... y, curioso, Trump no ha hecho nada por litigar, sino que simplemente lo ha ocultado. Por qué? Porque es verdad y si litiga tiene que ir bajo juramento y declarar que no lleva pañales, y que luego le puede salir un perito que destapa que SI que lleva pañales, que se caga encima y que apesta.
Trump huele a mierda fermentada, mezcla de fast food y coca cola zero. Además de ponerse fino de anfetas y coca.
>Answer: Trump having a foul odor is the Emperor's new clothes fact about him. Everyone in his circle knows he smells really bad, but no one dares to bring it up publicly.
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>Former Apprentice staffer Noel Casler did a damning interview in 2018 during which he disclosed a number of embarrassing facts about Donald Trump including the fact that he wears adult diapers and constantly craps himself.
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>As per Casler, **Trump wears a hard plastic back brace which is why he stands and turns so oddly. He also wears adult diapers and is incontinent.**
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>**His incontinence is caused by a combination of his advanced age, and years of snorting Adderall (a low dose amphetamine) and his cocaine use. Incontinence is a known side effect of long term cocaine use, and his notoriously terrible diet of diet coke and fast food doesn't help the situation.**
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>Cocaine reportedly flows freely in Trump circles, including in the White House during his first term. This wouldn't be out of character for a man that grew up in the center of Yuppie culture in New York in the 80s.
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>**His use of powerful stimulants would not only explain why he doesn't need a lot of sleep, but also his high energy level for a man of his age, and his notoriously erratic personality.**
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>On a side note former Trump fixer Michael Cohen also stated that **his notorious 'accordion hands gesture' is his tell. When he does that during an interview it means that he's lying or making something up**. Keep that in mind the next time you see him talk.
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>Long time trump **bodyguard Keith Schiller was apparently given the nickname 'wetwipes' on set because it was his job to go to the bathroom with Trump to clean him up because he can't bend over properly due to the back brace**.
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>That is if anything Casler said is to be believed.
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>Trump keeps his staff on a tight leash with strict NDAs to prevent them from talking about his secrets and personal life. He's notorious for suing people into oblivion for talking bad about him and he is notoriously vindictive. So what's strange is that he didn't take an legal action against Casler.
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>Casler is apparently is the only person on staff at the Apprentice that managed to fly under the radar and not sign an NDA. The fact that he has done multiple interviews about this and that the story was buried instead of him getting sued is pretty damning, as it means that he was probably telling the truth. If he was lying, Trump would have sued him, but if he was telling the truth Trump would have to face witnesses about it under oath in court.
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>EDIT: Having just re-watched an interview with him, **Cassler did sign an NDA but doesn't care and openly violates it. He stated it ended his TV career to talk about Trump this way because no one will hire him now. He's publicly dared Donald to sue him for libel on Truth Social and on TV and he hasn't. Given how vindictive and litigious Trump is that's all you need to know.**
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>Some evidence to support Casler's claims have come to light.
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>During the Battle of the Billionaires on WWE you can clearly see the outline of a diaper in his pants.
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>**Trump was letting off farts and smelling so bad during his court case with E Jean Carol that it was reported by the news.**
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>**There's also a number of youtube clips of his speeches where you can here him farting loudly and those around him make faces due to the horrible smell.**
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>EDIT: Here's a clip of Cassler talking about Trump's drug use. Start here, watch 3 minutes
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> EDIT: Cassler stated in interviews that staffers would refer to the Apprentice as 'the Shit Show'. Boom mike operators would have to sit there and listen to Trump ripping farts on the monitors.
@lowfour (post #408)
madremia, tío, que el plan es retirarlo y meter al vance, ni cotiza ya
en unas semanas (puede que días) nos dirán, nono, perdonad lo de los aranceles y tal, es que se le fue el ollate, lo metemos en esta institución y que gobierne el vance (y susvaisacagar rojosdemierda!!)
es que me escama mucho que salga ahora y no en los últimos años, nomejodas, este no apesta desde hace 3 meses porque le dan diarreas de la cola zero y tal
pues mira, al final lowfour va a tener razón, les van a tirar a gorrazos con brea y plumas y todo... porque una cosa es el reich trucho que sea, pero si palmamos pasta ya... eso no
Edited 2025-03-10
aquí nos descojonamos del nasdaq ese ahora, eh?
mirad
están reunidos para ver cómo se paga la fiesta, pero habrá fiesta
creo haber leído por ahí (lo pusiste antes, lowfour?) que en alemania van a poner 500kM para "defensa", vamos, más de la mitad de lo que pone vonderleyen para toda europa (igual lo he soñao, voy a ver si lo encuentro)
id pillando en rheinmetall que luego ya no sube tanto
Los putos bastardos van a morir... ya está saliendo la peña a la calle, el otro día el Vance se fue a esquiar (por decirlo de alguna forma, era un PUTO CERO A LA IZUIERDA) y los progres comedores de Ben & Jerrys se cagaron en su puta madre non stop.
Yo creo que hay batalla... que ateniendo a los meses del 33 cuando los Nazis dieron la vuelta a Alemania estos son unos completos inútiles que se están ya matando entre ellos. Les atacan Twitter, Tesla se va a la puta mierda, los jueces los están parando.
Lo repito. Para montar fascismo necesitas gente metiendo ostias en la calle desde el día uno, sumisión mental por porrazo se llama. Así lo hicieron los camisas pardas, así lo hicieron los fascistas, así lo quería Jose Antonio (tan ilustrado como exaltado y violento). El fascismo requiere violencia en las calles. Siempre. Desactivar la disensión y la respuesta.
Pero claro, si dejas a los progres joderte las vacaciones de esquí, me parece que poco fascismo vas a montar.
@lowfour (post #412)
yo espero que tengas razón, pero como estamos en 2025, igual la disidencia y tal no se mide en balazos en las calles o algo así, sino ne los flames "tuiteros" o cómo te desfogas en interné con "bots" y tal
en 1933 podrías tener que recurrir a matones del SA para "pacificar" a las masas, hoy les metes un "solomillov" y una "simona" y se quedan tan contentos... lo aderezas con un poco de "reels" que te monta el zukerberg, toqueteas el "logaritmo" para que te salgan gatitos y tal... y ya lo tienes
pero sí, lo de que tesla se vaya al guano me da que es un buen argumento para el fin del reinado trucho
no solo tesla, claro, pero eso ya no lo tapas con "gatitos"
y lo de las criptos que se han montado, verás las risas
al final, la europa "decadente" va a salir reforzada y todo de todo esto, eh?
íbamos mal en "digitalización" y hoy ya no solo hablaban de fondos de "rearme" sino de, justamente, "digitalizadores"
Un antiguo cercano a trump le pone verde al parecer. Promete
Ha esceito varios libros sobre el k gordo porque le dejaron 7 meses en La Casa Blanca y vio toda la mierda e incluso es amigo enemigo de varios de ellos. BRUTAL
Dice que todo para trump son “titulares titulares titulares”. Boutades. Que parece que va a crear el NWO y en realidad no hay nada, profundidad epidermica y que todo acabará implosionando antes que tarde (la teoría lowfour: son unos payasos incompetentes ósea unos lazis).
Muy buena pinta la entrevista!
@lowfour (post #412) Eso es para montar un Estado basado en la represión física, no necesariamente uno fascista. Por ejemplo los países de Centro y Suramérica aliades de USrael como Haití o Colombia hacían eso, represión callejera, asesinatos y terrorismo de Estado en general, todo ello sin fascismo.
El mismo R78 es así, tú haz una manifa en una ciudad grande sin ser funci o jubileta y ya verás lo que tardan en enviarte a los hombres de Harrelson a darte porrazos. Y si la manifa no es agresiva no te preocupes que ya se encargan ellos de que lo sea, dando orden a los "compañeros" vestidos con sudadera negra con capucha para que la empiecen ellos.
Edited 2025-03-11
@lowfour (post #414)
La entrevista a Michael Wolff, que ha escrito varios libros sobre el tarado naranja es buenísima. Los principales puntos.
Este tio tuvo acceso ilimitado a Trump y la casa blanca y el despacho oval durante 7 meses.
Ahora tiene "amigos" en ese entorno, que le atacan en público y luego se llevan bien.
Vamos, más o menos lo que decía yo.
Son unos putos clowns, les va a reventar en la jeta todo esto (ya les ha reventado). Hay atisbos de ideología pero para implementar esa ideología tienes que ser un Mao, un Hitler, un Pol Pot. Terror en las calles, plan deliberado de genocidio, control absoluto de las calles, brutalidad, unidireccionalidad, shock.
Ya vemos el shock de estos clowns:
Pues eso. Qué cojones fascismo van a montar estos? Como no monten el circo del bombero torero, no se qué coño van a montar.
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