Trump, La putita de la Rusia de Putin

lowfour
lowfour
Started 2025-02-20
635 posts
elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2026-10-17
#601

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yo no lo llamaría "terrified" o "panicked"

pero es curioso que no se atribuyan la orden... a qué tienen miedo?

lowfour
lowfour
2026-10-17
#602

A la CIA que los va a empapelar o pegar cuatro tiros tarde o temprano.

Lo veo claro eh? Todo el state sale diciendo que qué cojones es eso. Pero es que o apoyan a putin, o putin pone lo que queda de maquinería spammer contra ellos... y entonces AL PUTO TRULLO POR MÚLTIPLES RAZONES.

DE todas formas dejar vender teslas y Starlink en Europa es DEmencial.

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2026-10-17
#605

está claro que los truchos han desconectado del orden mundial de 1950-1990 o algo así

están ya en nwo-t del tirón, repartiéndose sus ñapas como si fueran cromos

ahora invado venezuela, ahora me cargo al de irán, luego que si groenlandia... uy, no que se chinan (y es europa, no unos bolivarianos corruptos), bueno, pues ahora jodo ucrania que me tira los datacenters... hablando de datacenters, venga unas pajillas entre amiguetes, no??

menudo descaro, estos no se comen las uvas...

lowfour
lowfour
2026-10-18
#608

Bastardos, el starlink no les afecta los deep strikes (nunca se lo habían concedido), les afectan los interceptores de shaheds!

Les han desconectado las defensas. Valiente hijodetputa el Musk y el gordo.

lowfour
lowfour
2026-10-18
#609

Qué pupa les ha hecho la destrucción de los data centers. Pues hoy MÁS!

VK ha volado por los aires.

lowfour
lowfour
2026-10-18
#610

Van a perder las elecciones con ese 1% a 5% que logran con el spam ruso.

lowfour
lowfour
2026-10-18
#613
Edited 2026-10-18

Esto lo cantamos aquí hace largo. Yo espero que acaben dando armas a Rusia contra la EU.

Pero lo van a largar antes.

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2026-10-19
#614

como tengamos razón en lo de la ayuda directa a rusia con armas o tropas o algo así, nos cagamos

pero por casandros

nomejodas

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2026-10-19
#616

sabes qué? que xi va a mandarles a tomar por culo, pero rápido

para los chinorris la guerra es el desgaste de usa tanto como de rusia, cuanto más jodidos estén mejor para china

la ue no va a hacer nada por evitar que china lidere, es más, posiblemente tenga sentido un cierto entendimiento, tú para el atlántico y yo para el pacifico y todos contentos... si japon quiere alinearse con europa, allá ellos

pero bueno, quién sabe, está todo muy raro

lo cierto es que por menos hubo casus belli en el pasado, aunque no vamos a entrar en guerra ni con rusia ni con el truchinato (ni con nadie)

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2026-10-19
#617

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ostia zelensky, eh?

pero yo entiendo que le quieran dar al trucho con las consecuencias de su posicionamiento pro-ruski

lo que pasa es que no le están dando mucha cobertura, puede que sean por cuestiones de noticias locales, peroyoqueséya

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2026-10-20
#618

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pues no sé, quien siga haciendo como que no se entera de lo del trucho con el gnomo o es cómplice o agente doble o algo así

venganomejodas

esto es ayuda directa del trucho al gnomo, solo falta enviar armas o tropas o algo así, porque sanciones y comprar diesel ya lo damos por descontado

lowfour
lowfour
2026-10-20
#619

Son basura. Vienen a por nosotros, piensan que con la AI nos van a someter a todos como Sauron. Pero esperemos que les reviente en la cabeza.

lowfour
lowfour
2026-10-20
#622

Le he preguntado a Claudio sobre la traición de Trump. El cuco de él me decia que era ecuánime con los rusos. Luego le he empzado a dar ejemplosy y al final me ha reconocido que de 0 a 10 (total prorussian bitch) está en un 7.9 y creo que se queda corto. Pero lo interesante es el análisis sobre la opinión de los americanos. No les quita el sueño pero están mayoritariamente a favor de Ucrania.

lowfour
lowfour
2026-10-20
#624

I'll look at what US outlets have been reporting on Trump and Ukraine over the past two weeks, plus recent polling on public opinion.

The short version: across most of the US media, including some conservative outlets, coverage has been sharply critical of Trump's moves on Ukraine over the past two weeks. The public mostly sides with Ukraine and has little confidence in Trump on this. His defenders frame it as a peace-and-fuel-prices strategy, not a betrayal. "Betrayal" is the critics' word; the mainstream news pages mostly describe a rupture or breaking point.

What actually happened (Oct 9–20)

  • Russian diesel deal. Trump unveiled a deal on Oct. 9 to bring Russian diesel to US and global markets, then on Oct. 10 blamed Zelensky specifically for the diesel shortage pushing up US prices. Treasury temporarily authorized dealings in Russian-origin diesel through April 7, 2027.

  • "Energy ceasefire" that didn't hold. Trump announced a mutual halt on energy strikes. Zelensky then said Russia had attacked Ukraine's energy and oil and gas sectors 76 times in the week since, and Ukraine resumed its refinery strikes.

  • Pressure on Kyiv. The administration warned Ukraine and European allies that it could suspend intelligence sharing and European purchases of US weapons for Kyiv unless the deep strikes on Russian energy stopped. Starlink/Starshield service to Ukraine was also restricted, though the administration denies ordering that.

  • Sanctions waiver. On Friday evening, Trump signed an order waiving key sanctions and tariffs meant to push Russia to end the war. These came from a law he had signed only last month.

  • Personal attacks. Trump said it was "time for Ukraine to get a new president," and then claimed Zelensky "doesn't want to end this war, and probably never did," and on Monday suggested someone else should negotiate for Ukraine.

How the media is framing it

Mainstream news (WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS): The tone is grim and the dominant theme is a relationship falling apart. The Washington Post wrote that the alliance is heading toward a possible breaking point, with Moscow strengthened by Trump's rejection of new sanctions and Kyiv hurt by disruptions in satellite support for its drones. Several outlets also point out the domestic angle: the White House is trying to relieve pressure on oil and diesel prices ahead of the midterms.

Conservative press: split, with an important defection. The biggest story is that the Wall Street Journal's editorial board, owned by Murdoch, has turned on him hard. It wrote that "Trump wants Ukraine to surrender on Mr. Putin's terms" and called for a bipartisan reckoning after the election over his "budding alliance with the Kremlin." Earlier it argued that the diesel volumes are too small to move global prices, and the money would just fund Putin's war. Fox News has mostly played it straight. Its coverage frames the deal as a way to add supply to a strained diesel market, while also quoting analysts who doubt it will meaningfully lower prices.

Politicians: There is real bipartisan pushback. Sen. Thom Tillis called the waiver "beyond irresponsible" and accused Trump of "capitulating to a Russian dictator." Ted Cruz said it was a mistake, and Speaker Mike Johnson said he had warned the White House about "unintended consequences." Trump also has defenders. Sen. Lankford argued the waiver doesn't mean Trump is siding with Putin, pointing to continued intelligence sharing, weapons, and other sanctions on Russian oil companies. Trump himself played down the critics, saying "there aren't many of them."

Public sentiment

  • Americans side with Ukraine, by a lot. A YouGov poll from Oct. 14 found 57% sympathize more with Ukraine, 4% with Russia, and 24% with neither. That's slightly lower than 62% in April, so the gap is still huge but a little softer.

  • Low trust in Trump on this issue. About two-thirds (66%) aren't confident Trump can make good decisions on the war, according to Pew. That survey is from March, but it's the latest deep dive.

  • The partisan split is real but not total. Earlier this year YouGov found 78% of Democrats and 52% of Republicans sympathizing more with Ukraine, and MAGA Republicans less likely than other Republicans to do so (45% vs. 63%).

  • Ukraine is not the main thing on most people's minds. The broader mood is sour. NBC's new poll has Trump's approval at 34%, a second-term low, with disapproval at 66%, but it's driven mostly by the economy and fuel prices. That's exactly the pressure Trump says he's trying to ease with the diesel deal.

The other side's case

Trump's argument, which his supporters echo, is that he's a broker trying to end a war, not pick a side. He says he doesn't want "to do anything that will drive, foolishly, Russia away from the bargaining table". The administration also calls the waiver a pause rather than the abandonment of the sanctions. Critics' main reply is that the pressure only seems to go one way: on Ukraine, not on Russia.

What to watch next: Trump's envoys are meeting Zelensky in Norway today, and the midterms are two weeks away.

Sources:

lowfour
lowfour
2026-10-20
#627

Joder con el Claudio eh? Equidintrucho!

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2026-10-20
#628

bueno, a veces el claudio responde como un puñetero asperger al prompt que le pongas

pero da que pensar que le tuvieras que poner las pilas para que te dijera que 8 de 10 es pro-ruski y luego ya si eso 2 barre para zelensky

y si le pillo yo por banda, no me conformaría con "cantidad", sino con "calidad", no es lo mismo cortar el starlink que dejar que europa le venda armas gringas a ucrania... además, eso tampoco es ayudar, es poner intermediarios, es entorpercer

en fin, que a calidad sale pro-ruski de 24 kilates

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