@lowfour (post #30)
pues me parece que no es fake
he pillao la grabación en hd y frame a frame aparece el putin, el tiro de cámara engaña un poco, pero el putin está, como es tan enano el jodio es muy "tapable", pero está
al menos le hemos visto de pie
es que solo hay dos tomas, del pavo, la corta y esta
y claro, mosquea
la otra parece diseñada para taparle
pero aparece 
la peña no se ve el video completo y se tira a crear bulos...
nos la habían colao
@elarquitecto (post #32)
Eso es lo que pensé... pero se le ve menos hinchado o soy yo?
ojo que hay partido
en el vídeo, no se le ve en el plano general del minuto 19 y pico, solo se ve al ministro ese
la ceremonia transcurre fuera unos 14 min, y de vuelta al interior, ya sale putin en ese rincón, estamos en el min 34
pero luego pasa esto
más adelante salen unos cardenales o loquesea en términos ortodoxos a rellenar el hueco, pero pasan unos minutos con el palco ese vacío
resumen, putin sale en el 1:10
en el 1:40, plano general, sigue vacío
en el 1:41, plano lateral (ese que nos engañó), ya se ve un doritero cardenalicio ocupando el sitio
30 min esperando a que putin se recompusiera???
🤔
@lowfour (post #33)
estaba hasta arriba de loquesea que le dieran, y se le ve un poco mejor, sí
pero se pira a la media hora de aparecer (o sea, la ceremonia estaba empezada ya cuando llega, y se va mucho antes)
y por cómo ocupan el sitio luego, me da que no estaba previsto
igual otras veces lo ha hecho, se pira una vez hacen nosequé, pero es raro, no?
@elarquitecto (post #35)
me la envaino
putin no está al principio, solo aparece después de que hacen algo fuera de la iglesia, al regresar está putin y a los 20-30 min ya no está y luego aparecen los cardenales esos
en fin, que esto no sirve para saber si putin está peor o mejor o qué
bueno, hay diferencias (supongo que si me pongo a revisar otros años, lo mismo saco más), como que la grada lateral más cercana a putin parece que tiene más gente en 2021
lo de este año:
pero bueno, es innegable que putin ha asistido y que no va en silla de ruedas
no le ha dado ningún tembleque (que hayamos visto) y bueno, este año le han sacado más planos cortos, no sé por qué
2022:
2021 mismo momento de la ceremonia, plano más corto, apenas tiene un par en todo el tiempo que está en el templo);
Tsss tssss que viene que viene
Rumours are swirling in Moscow that a number of former generals and KGB officials are preparing to oust Russia’s president Vladimir Putin and plan to end the war in Ukraine, which is increasingly seen across Russia as a strategic mistake and, above all, an economic disaster.
The top of Putin’s former employer – the Russian security service FSB – is said to be so frustrated about the lack of military progress in Ukraine that it has reached out to a number of generals and former army officials, according to various analysts and local media reports.
In particular a group called the ‘Siloviki’ – which comprises of former FSB officers who are active in Russian politics – is said to be pushing hard to replace Putin, together with former officers from the GRU, KGB and FSO, other Russian intelligence units.
The idea a coup may be imminent is further strengthened by social media activity across Russia and Eastern Europe, which has gone into overdrive in the last 24 hours.
Moreover, analysts in and outside Russia have said all signs are there that Putin will face a coup soon.
The Russian president is reportedly “very worried” and has tightened security in and around the Kremlin.
“Does it matter? It matters a lot,” said Russian security expert Andrei Soldatov told The Center for European Policy Analysis.
“The Russian President has been bracing for a coup for some weeks as has faced fierce criticism over his “special operation” in Ukraine and he has purged around 150 of his spies over the constant failures,” Soldatov explained.
Moreover, rumours are also going round Putin’s health has taken a hit since the start of the war. On a number of videos the Russian president looks tired and irritated.
It has become evident that the relationship between the FSB and Putin has deteriorated since the start of the war.
Last month, two senior officers in the FB, were put under house arrest by Putin.
Andrei Soldatov who runs, the well-informed investigative website Agentura, reported that Sergei Beseda, the head of the Fifth Service – the FSB’s foreign intelligence branch – and his deputy had been detained and put under house arrest.
The move was seen as a clear sign Putin is deeply concerned about the FSB’s role in the offensive against Ukraine and he fears forces within the intelligence apparatus may be working against him, Western officials told the Agentura platform.
“Both men have played a major role in intelligence operations against Ukraine for several years and highly likely played a major role in the planning for the invasion,” one said.
“There could be significant changes at senior levels in the FSB.”
@lowfour (post #37) bueeeeeh! de haberlo hecho hace un mes nos habríamos ahorrado la de dios
de todos modos, no descartemos que sean también maniobras "purgativas" o simple paranoia
@elarquitecto (post #38) De todas formas es un lose-lose para Putin. Si lo patean, es evidente. Pero si consigue mantenerse, ¿de quién se va a fiar? ¿Cómo puede tener ni la más mínima certeza de que mañana no desayuna con polonio? A estas alturas está claro que el FSB está infiltrado hasta arriba, se anuncian los movimientos rusos con dos días de antelación en Twitter por mucho que purguen.
Lo mejor que podría hacer es darle paso a un sucesor y que le diesen el retiro en una dacha. Pero dudo que su ego se lo permita.
@LurkerIII (post #39)
>Lo mejor que podría hacer es darle paso a un sucesor y que le diesen
~~el retiro~~un tiro en una dacha. Pero dudo que su ego se lo permita.
Joder con los nazis.
>Glory to Ukraine !
>
>Mariupol garrison has been resisting the enemy's overwhelming forces for 70 days now Since April 25, we have been holding a circular defense of the Azovstal plant.
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>For the second day as the enemy broke into the plant there are heavy bloody battles I am proud of my soldiers who are making superhuman efforts to deter the enemy's offensive.
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>I thank the whole world for the tremendous support of our defending soldiers. They deserve it.
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>The situation is extremely difficult but despite everything we continue to carry out the order to keep the defense.
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>Situation is very complicated but nevertheless we still follow the order to hold positions
@lowfour (post #40) creo que leí en el otro hilo que iba a operarse de lo suyo y parece que no, porque no se fía de que lo anestesien
jojojo, te imaginas?
pero putin, hay que anestersiarle
tú opera, joder, que esto con un poco de vodka y lidocaina ya vale
pero es que le tenemos que hacer un by pass en la vena y eso le va a desmayar del dolor
que no, joder, que soy de bilbow
@lowfour (post #46) entonces no solo se desmorona el ejército?? también todo el aparatchik soviet... este... ruso!??
@elarquitecto (post #47)
Parece que es más bien una plataforma en plan Medium donde cualquiera puede publicar. No lo se. Pero vamos, que hay mucha gente en contra dentro de Rusia es evidente.
Otro oligarca que cierra sesión:
@LurkerIII (post #49)
Jajaja, mensaje para entendidos eh? Dios mio, mafia pura y dura.
Vladimir Putin is 'very ill with blood cancer', a Russian oligarch has claimed according to a new report, amid on-going speculation about the strongman's health.
**An audio recording of the oligarch's comments was obtained by a Western venture capitalist and shared with New Lines magazine, the publication said.**
**In it, the oligarch - who has close ties to the Kremlin and named only as 'Yuri' to protect his identity - claimed a number of the health problems Putin is believed to be suffering from are linked to him having blood cancer.**
One example given was Putin's lower back problems, New Lines reported. The Russian tyrant underwent surgery on his back in October 2021, just a few months before he ordered the invasion of Ukraine on February 24.
Other examples cited by the magazine included Putin's increasingly puffy face - a possible indicator of steroid use in his recovery - and the fact that he appears to be walking with a limp.
Other sources have claimed in recent months that Putin, 69, is suffering from Parkinson's. He has been seen in public less frequently than normal, and when he is shown on television, his appearances are heavily curated.
ut despite the Kremlin being scrupulous with what footage of Putin is released to the public, there have been a number of signs that he is unwell.
**On Monday, Putin gave a speech during Moscow's Victory Day parade - an annual event Russia celebrates to mark the end of its involvement in the Second World War.
Putin was shown awkwardly walking through Red Square - possibly to hide a limp. He was also seen with a blanket across his lap as he watched the proceedings, despite Moscow that day being a relatively mild 48 Fahrenheit (9C).**
On April 22 he was seen meeting defence minister Sergei Shoigu, slumped in his seat at a comically small desk which he gripped like a vice for the whole conversion.
**In March, having delivered a speech at a large pro-war rally in Russia's capital, Putin was filmed walking down a short flight of stairs putting more weight on his left leg.**
**His right hand - the same that gripped the desk in April - has been shown shaking, while he was also seen clutching the armrest of a chair during a meeting with Belarusian dictator Alexander Lukashenko.**
In the build-up to the invasion of Ukraine, he held meetings with world leaders and other Russian military officials sat at either end of huge banquet-sized tables amid reports he was taking extra precautions over Covid-19.
**Individuals meeting Putin were required to be tested rigorously for Covid-19.**
**Blood cancers - such as lymphoma or myeloma - are a cancer of plasma cells, and can cause pervasive bone disease.**
Speaking to New Lines, Ashley Grossman - a professor of endocrinology at Oxford University - said such diseases can affect the spine and back.
What's more, **treatment for such diseases involve steroids, which can result in a puffy face, and chemotherapy, which results in hair loss.**
Putin is not known to be suffering from hair loss, but other blood cancers like Myeloma tend to not require chemotherapy.
**Myeloma can, however, lead to a compression in the spine.
Treatments for such types of cancer also weaken a patient's immune system, which could go some way to explaining Putin's cautious approach to Covid distancing.**
The type of blood cancer Putin might be suffering from was not specified by the oligarch, who was secretly recorded by the unnamed venture capitalist.
However, it was evident that 'Yuri' hold a level of disdain for Russia's leader.
**'[Putin] absolutely ruined Russia's economy, Ukraine's economy and many other economies — ruined [them] absolutely,' the oligarch said, according to New Lines. 'The problem is with his head. … One crazy guy can turn the world upside down.'**
He decried Putin for saying he was 'trying to find Nazis and fascists' as a pretext to invade Ukraine, and went on to say 'we all hope' the Russian leader dies of cancer, or from an internal hit-job by those closest to him.
Yuri said he holds Putin personally accountable for the deaths of 'more than 15,000 Russian soldiers and 4,000 or 5,000 civilians in Ukraine. It's unbelievable. For what? He killed more people than in 10 years in the [Soviet] Afghan war.'
The magazine said it was able to authenticate the oligarch's identity and voice. The publication said it would not reveal the name of the oligarch because of the repercussions he could face for criticising Russia's president.
It added that he left Russia in 2021, and that his net worth put him in Forbes' list of Russia's top 200 wealthiest people. New Lines said the majority of the conversation was spent with Yuri asking how he could recover from Western sanctions.
But **the magazine also said he was described by a former European security chief as being part of a close circle of 20 to 30 people the Russian leader met with in 2014, ahead of his annexation of the Crimean peninsula.**
**To add to speculation over his health, Putin on Wednesday missed an annual ice hockey match where he usually plays the starring role.**
The Russian leader has made a habit of gliding over the ice at an annual match during Russia's Night Hockey League National Festival in May.
But this year while Putin was 'expected' to take part, he instead sent a video message wishing competitors 'good luck in their ice battles' - despite the President being in the Black Sea report of Sochi where the match took place on Tuesday.
It is only the second time that the President has missed the game since 2012, with the first instance being due to health problems.
In May 2021, Putin boasted that ice hockey offered him longevity, and he used his appearance to scotch rumours over his health at the time.
'You extend your life, you make it of better quality and deeper meaning,' he said.
Meanwhile, it was reported on Thursday that body doubles have been prepared to make public appearances as Putin gets ready for imminent surgery.
The Russian president could be out of action for between two and ten days while his troops continue to struggle in the war with Ukraine.
The use of lookalikes would preserve appearances that Putin remains in full control of Russia, Telegram Channel General SVR said.
The anti-Putin channel's claims on his medical problems are supposedly based on 'intelligence' from an exiled Kremlin lieutenant-general insider known by the alias Viktor Mikhailovich.
It was also reported last week that an order by Putin to strike Ukraine or the West with nuclear weapons would be ignored by his top commanders, due to the fact that they believe he is unwell.
Many leading military and security officials as well as oligarch cronies believe Putin to be dying or gravely ill, said Christo Grozev, who is an expert on Russian affairs and is associated with the Bellingcat open source research group.
Believing that Putin could soon die, his inner circle would not risk being hauled before a modern equivalent of the Nuremberg trials for unleashing Armageddon, nor would they obey a Putin order to kill opposition foes, Mr Grozev claimed.
The Russian president placed Moscow's nuclear forces on high alert shortly after his invasion of Ukraine began February 24, raising fears he could press the button as the war in Ukraine continues to go against him.
And amid increasing Western support to Ukraine, Putin has made thinly veiled threats hinting at a willingness to deploy Russia's tactical nuclear weapons, which Russian military doctrine holds can be used to force an adversary to retreat.
Meanwhile, Russia has increasingly resorted to nuclear sabre-rattling as the war in Ukraine has stumbled, with state media last week issuing near-daily threats - including one to wipe out the UK and Ireland with a 'nuclear tidal wave'.
Lo pongo aquí también
Vladimir Putin’s top security officials think the war in Ukraine is ‘lost’, making the chances of a coup more likely, an analyst in Moscow says.
**The chances of the Russian tyrant launching a nuclear strike are receding as it is likely people would refuse to carry out his order.**
That’s according to expert and investigative journalist Christo Grozev, who suggests Putin is losing his grip on power.
He says leading officials are unlikely to obey Putin’s commands to launch nukes as **they don’t trust he will still be in power in three months time.**
‘I think that it is the informed elite within the security forces who understand that the war is lost,’ Grozev told Radio Liberty.
He said **Putin’s inner circle understand the president would need a full mass mobilisation to win the war, but this would cause a ‘social explosion’ in Russia.**
Some hardliners may pressure for use of nuclear or chemical weapons, Grozev warned.
But others will say ‘enough is enough’ and ‘it is better not to waste another 10,000 lives of our soldiers and officers’.
**Grozev, lead Russia investigator for investigative journalist group Bellingcat, said one or more of the ‘five hands’ needed to launch Russia’s nukes could end up defying Putin.**
‘And this refusal will be the trigger, most likely, a coup d’état, because after the refusal to comply with the order of the king, everything will go down very quickly,’ he added.
‘If Putin decides to give an order to use nuclear weapons, he must be sure that everyone along the chain will carry out this order.’
If one person does not comply, Grozev says this will be a ‘signal of insubordination’ which could lead to the ‘death of Putin’.
‘So until he is sure that everyone will comply, he will not give this order,’ he added.
It is known that defence minister Sergei Shoigu and chief of the defence staff Valery Gerasimov would both need to sanction a nuclear strike.
**During the war, Putin has made a point of being seen in public with an official carrying the nuclear briefcase.**
Defence ministry flights for Russia’s elite to a supposed command and control bunker near Ufa – 725 miles east of Moscow – have reduced since earlier in the war, according to Grozev.
**The journalist said senior figures from the FSB security agency and the GRU military intelligence organisation are preparing for life after Putin.**
He said the ‘FSB elite’ knows exactly how many Russian troops have died in Ukraine and knows that the loved ones of the dead or missing ‘do not stop asking questions’.
‘They know that this situation will eventually get out of hand,’ Grozev added.
‘These are those parts of the security forces who know the dangers for the regime, and they themselves are now preparing their future.
‘Some of them are looking for an opportunity to take their families out of Russia, all are looking for ways to transfer the accumulated money (corruption money in many cases) into dollars and euros.
‘This is already a kind of betrayal by these people, because they do not follow the ideological orders of the Kremlin, but are preparing for an alternative reality.’
El twitter del periodista ese.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
@lowfour (post #52)
The chances of the Russian tyrant launching a nuclear strike are receding as it is likely people would refuse to carry out his order.
That’s according to expert and investigative journalist Christo Grozev, who suggests Putin is losing his grip on power.
He says leading officials are unlikely to obey Putin’s commands to launch nukes as they don’t trust he will still be in power in three months time.
bueno, eso ya lo medio sospechábamos, pero joder, es que sugiere que va mucho más allá de tirar nukes, eh??
de hecho, no lo sugiere, lo afirma, pero es como si no supieran muy bien cómo se gestiona el post-putin
Ukrainska Pravda — MONDAY, 23 MAY 2022, 13:59
Kyrylo Budanov, the Head of the Chief Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defence of Ukraine says that there was an attempt on the life of Russian President Vladimir Putin after the start of the war against Ukraine.
Source: Kyrylo Budanov in an interview with Ukrainska Pravda
Quote: "There was an attempt to assassinate Putin… He was even attacked, it is said, by representatives of the Caucasus, not so long ago. This is non-public information. [It was an] Absolutely unsuccessful attempt, but it really happened… It was about 2 months ago.
I repeat, this attempt was unsuccessful. There was no publicity about this event, but it took place."
Details: Read the full version of the conversation with the head of military intelligence soon on Ukrainska Pravda.
@lowfour (post #56)
pues a este paso lo mismo consiguen echarlo cuando se muera
ains, que largo se nos va a hacer el verano
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-putin-treated-cancer-april-us-intelligence-report-says-1710357
@lowfour (post #59)
cada dos semanas publican lo mismo o qué?
a ver si putin está cadáver y nos tienen entretenidos con un guiñol...
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