NWO-T

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
Started 2025-02-08
857 posts
elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-02-28
#241

https://xcancel.com/tacokingX/status/1895542097136271752#m

versión "extendida" desde que empieza el vance a meter mierda y el zelensky al principio no está con los brazos cruzados, sino exponiendo su postura y cómo han ido pasando presidentes desde 2014 sin hacer puto nada

que firmó con macron y merkel (supongo que los acuerdos de minsk) y que solo valió para lo que está pasando ahora, más territorio usurpado y guerra total contra ucrania, rusia casi ocupa kiev y todo, pero sobre todo matanzas indiscriminadas (crímenes de guerra)

el vance entonces se pone chulo y zelensky no sé ni cómo no le suelta una ostia con la mano abierta al vance ojostiznaos

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-02-28
#242

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aquí defmon dando su "versión" de los hechos, que todo es un malentendido, un "lost in traslation" o algo así

los cojones 33

cuando uno quiere entenderse, se entiende y te haces entender (joder, los que hemos vivido fuera, lo sabemos), cuando no, no

porque defmon, querido, no te pones a decirle al presidente de ucrania que no tienen hombres, que tiene que aceptar lo que le ponen o ww3 si no lo hace

a pastar cieno un poco con las disculpas a los truchos, nomejodas, iban a dejarle como un "warmonguer", un "loco" que no quiere la paz o algo así

ostiaputa, que nadie en euroa, empezando por vonderleyen ha visto esa mierda de "lost in traslation" sino lo que ha pasado, unos palilleros matones intentando joder a un tipo que no se achantó ante putin invadiendo su jodido país

lo dije esta mañana, los truchos éstos no saben con quién están negociando

lowfour
lowfour
2025-02-28
#243

700Billones de Euros y Nukes para Ucrania YA

lowfour
lowfour
2025-02-28
#244
Edited 2025-02-28

Rusia está en la lona y estos dos charcuteros fascistas de mierda nos quieren vender lo contrario.



Hijosdeputa, Europa os lo hará pagar.



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elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-02-28
#245

@lowfour (post #244)

yo es que no sé a qué coño esperan los del pentágono para barrer un poco la mierda esta pro-rusa, eh?

por mucho menos te marcaban como "anti-americano" no hace tanto

lowfour
lowfour
2025-02-28
#246

Sabéis lo que pasa? Que les ha salido por la culata. Se ve a Zelenski medio tranquilo pero diciéndoles las verdades del barquero. Han quedado como dos charcuteros del polígono de Alcalá de Henares intentando cerrar una acuerdo en pérdidas con un proveedor de baldosas.

Son puta basura y son tan inútiles que lo ha visto todo el mundo.

Están muertos tio. Yo los veo muertos a estos gilipollas. O sacan los tanques y empiezan a matar americanos (lo que Putin quiere) o estos están acabados.

lowfour
lowfour
2025-02-28
#248

https://elpais.com/opinion/2025-02-28/putin-en-el-despacho-oval.html



Putin en el Despacho Oval


El presidente ruso cuenta con el arma más formidable que pueda imaginarse: ha conseguido situar en la cúpula de la superpotencia rival a alguien que comparte sus puntos de vista, sus ideas y su amoralidad

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-02-28
#249

@lowfour (post #248)

está claro ya para quien lo quiera ver, pero no de hoy, eh?

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@lowfour (post #246) Son puta basura y son tan inútiles que lo ha visto todo el mundo.



tal cual

y os digo una cosa, en europa lo saben, lo saben desde diciembre por lo menos, antes de la cumbre de munich

pero no podían hacerlo público, porque les podían llamar "paranoicos"

pero ahora es esto que dice bassets

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putin cuenta con trump

así que en europa no hay que contar con trump (marearle y hacerse un zelensky, sí, ir a la casa blanca y tal, sí, pero plantarse delante de su puta jeta al primer desaire, también, si no, no vayas)

lowfour
lowfour
2025-02-28
#250

Al loro esto que he visto en USA TODAY



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At one point, Trump told Zelenskyy, "**The problem is I've empowered you to be a tough guy**. I don't think you'd be a tough guy without the U.S. Your people are very brave. But, you're either going to make a deal or we're out."



Es un narcisista.

lowfour
lowfour
2025-02-28
#251

Pues esta es la "theory of victory" de Putin. Demostrar que el Artículo 5 de NATO está roto. Lo esperaban lograr al amagar atacar a las bálticas en un par de años. Lo van a lograr en plan chacinero tercermundista, vendedor de alfombras a domicilio.

Yo veo un golpe de estado en USA. Creo que a muchos militares se les ha cortado la cena hoy.

lowfour
lowfour
2025-02-28
#252

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2019j0w9glo



What it was like in the room during Oval Office shouting match



The day began with the same cordial routine the White House reserves for visiting foreign dignitaries.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was welcomed by US President Donald Trump at the door of the West Wing with an honour guard, and the leaders shook hands politely.

We were in the Oval Office as part of Ukrainian media pool, witnessing the well-rehearsed formalities and about half an hour of polite talk.

Zelensky presented Trump with the championship belt of Ukrainian boxer Oleksandr Usyk.

Trump complimented Zelensky's clothing.

So far, so diplomatic.

But minutes later, what erupted was unprecedented to say the least. The genial tone devolved into acrimony and chaos. Voices were raised, eyes rolled, aspersions cast - and all in front of the world's TV cameras.

The US president and vice-president berated the visiting leader, accusing Zelensky of not being grateful enough for US support that has sustained Ukraine's war effort.

Tensions flared when Vice-President JD Vance told Zelensky that the war had to be ended through diplomacy.

What kind of diplomacy, Zelensky replied.

Talking over the Ukrainian president, Vance told the visiting leader it was "disrespectful" for him to come to the Oval Office and make his case in front of the American media and demanded that he thank Trump for his leadership.

Journalists in the room watched with gaping mouths as an extraordinary exchange followed.

"You've done enough talking. You're not winning this," Trump told him at one point. "You gotta be thankful. You don't have the cards."

"I'm not playing cards," Zelensky replied. "I'm very serious, Mr President. I'm the president in a war."

"You're gambling with World War Three," Trump responded. "And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country, that's backed you far more than a lot of people said they should have."

Vance retorted: "Have you said 'thank you' once this entire meeting? No."

Ukraine's ambassador to the US watched with her head in her hands.

The atmosphere had shifted entirely - and all out in the open.

Our American colleagues remarked that they had never seen anything like it. "A scene like this was simply unimaginable in the White House," one told me.

As reporters exited the Oval Office, many stood still in a state of shock. In the White House briefing room, where the exchange was replayed shortly afterwards, the rest of the media who hadn't been in the room watched in disbelief.

Confusion ensued. There were immediate questions about whether the planned news conference would go ahead – or if the much-anticipated deal between the US and Ukraine over mineral resources would even be signed.

Minutes later, Trump wrote on Truth Social that Zelensky could "come back when he is ready for peace".

The news conference and deal-signing ceremony - set to take place in the East Room of the White House - was officially cancelled.

Soon after Zelensky strode out and into a waiting SUV, as his ambassador trailed behind him.

They pulled away as the world was only beginning to digest an extraordinary moment.

Despite the full-blown argument, there may still be a minerals deal sooner or later.

But one thing is certain: this visit by Zelensky will be remembered for entirely different reasons.

The world saw first-hand how negotiations between the US and Ukraine are unfolding: they are difficult, emotional, and tense.

It was clear that this was a tough negotiation for both parties.

The gift of Ukrainian boxer Oleksandr Usyk's belt certainly didn't save the situation. And after this bout at the White House, the real question now is what this means for the war in Ukraine - and Zelensky's own future.

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-02-28
#253

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esto descarta que haya sido todo un "malentendido", un error de traducción o algo así

es más, viendo que hasta feijoo se ha posicionado, me da que había alguna consigna para hacerlo, nomejodas tanta rapidez y unanimidad, estaban al corriente de que pasaría algo así

es que nomejodais, estamos viendo estas jugadas desde más allá del gallinero y los de platea (servicios secretos y tal) no se coscan o qué'?

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-02-28
#256
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@lowfour (post #252) Despite the full-blown argument, there may still be a minerals deal sooner or later.



loscojones33

algunos periodistas no se enteran

bueno, es difícil enterarse de una mierda con tanto ciberputi, la verdad

ese acuerdo no era provechoso para putin, así que cómo es que trump iba a firmar nada contra putin??

mi teoría, esta mañana, era que igual estaban presionando en el pentágono para que se firmara el acuerdo (que tampoco era una maravilla para zelensky, porque no daba garantías de nada, solo de "reconstrucción" a cambio de aval del 50% de los recursos) porque así, de rebote, nosotros nos poníamos la pilas (porque tendríamos que ser los encargados de ser los garantes de la paz, ya que no seríamos de la "reconstrucción")

pero desde el min 0 yo pensaba que todo esto no era más que un siniestro plan para decir que zelensky no quiere la paz y que europa tampoco (porque apoya a zelensky y porque quiere rearmarse, que es justo lo que les piden desde usa los truchos)

lo asombroso ha sido cómo trump ha recitado las mil mierdas ciberputis (salvo ucrania=nazi, el resto, todas) para invadir ucrania, llegando incluso a amenazar con ww3 (mierda suprema ciberputi, que vimos en burbuja antes de la invasión en 2022)

y ahora el periodista dice que habrá acuerdo... venganomejodas

no habrá acuerdo con trump igual que no hay acuerdo con putin, porque el "acuerdo" que buscan tanto putin como trump es hacer desaparecer ucrania (y luego, las democracias europeas)

joder, que a estas alturas estemos aun en esto,.. mandacojones

lo dijo putin el otro día, trump paga lo que debe, y muy a gusto, porque supone un nwo-t donde él gobierna, junto otros chacineros como él

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-02-28
#257

@lowfour (post #254)

buscarán más excusitas de mierda para alinearse con putin y sus intereses

esto no ha hecho más que empezar y o bien acaba con los chacineros en el fondo de las marianas o nos vemos luchando las guerras Z por todo el mundo

ahora mismo estoy seguro de que están las embajadas chinas echando humo en toda europa, planificando encuentros y movidas de cara a un realineamiento europeo hacia oriente (china, corea, japon, filipinas, indonesia... bueno, si no son musulmanes mejor, que nos llevamos regulinchi con ellos)

lowfour
lowfour
2025-02-28
#258

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-shouting-match-oval-office



Diplomacy dies on live TV as Trump and Vance gang up to bully Ukraine leader


US president said his horrific blow-up would make ‘great television’ – the White House has never seen anything like it

This is going to be great television,” Donald Trump remarked at the end. Sure. And as they slipped into the icy depths, the captain of the Titanic probably assured his passengers that this would make a great movie some day.

Trump on Friday presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history. Tempers flared, voices were raised and protocol was shredded in the once-hallowed Oval Office. As Trump got into a shouting match with Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelenskyy, a horrified Europe watched the post-second world war order crumble before its eyes.

Never has a US president bullied and berated an adversary,still less an ally, in such a public way. Of course the reality TV star and wrestling fan turned US president had it all play out on television for the benefit of his populist support base – and a certain bare-chested chum in the Kremlin.

Zelenskyy came to the White House to sign a deal for US involvement in Ukraine’s mineral industry to pave the way for an end to the three-year war. The president has inspired many by refusing to flee Kyiv when Russia launched its invasion – “I need ammunition, not a ride” – delivering nightly addresses to rally his people and visiting his troops on the frontlines.

But Trump, a profile in courage who dodged military service in Vietnam because of alleged bone spurs and who hid in the White House during the 6 January2021 riot, has reportedly described soldiers who die in combat as suckers and losers. He was impeached for trying to strong-arm Zelenskyy in 2019 and last week called him a dictator.

There was a hint of trouble to come when Zelenskyy arrived at the West Wing wearing a dark, long-sleeved shirt – not a suit – and Trump greeted him with a handshake and sarcasm: “Wow, look, you’re all dressed up!”

Inside the Oval Office, which has seen much but never anything quite like this, Zelenskyy thanked Trump for the invitation. At first all was sweetness and light as they fielded questions from reporters.

There was a minor wrinkle over how much Europe support has given Ukraine, which ended with smiles, a playful but pointed tap on Zelenskyy, and ominous words from Trump: “Don’t argue with me.”

But the last 10 minutes of the nearly 45-minute meeting devolved into acrimony and chaos. Zelenskyy found himself ambushed by Trump and his serpentine vice-president, JD Vance. He was expected to sit back and take a beating from Nurse Ratched and Miss Trunchbull. He refused.

Exuding preternatural obnoxiousness, Vance said Joe Biden’s approach had failed and that diplomacy was the way forward. Noting Russia’s betrayals of trust in the past, Zelenskyy challenged: “What kind of diplomacy, JD, you are speaking about? What do you mean?”

Vance, who once declared he didn’t care what happened in Ukraine, was riled. Finger jabbing, he lectured Zelenskyy: “I think it’s disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in front of the American media ... You should be thanking the president for trying to bring an end to this conflict.”

Uh-oh. The politicians and journalists in the room could surely tell this was going off the rails. At one point the Ukrainian ambassador would put her head in her hands. She was all of us.

Zelenskyy tried to push back, asking if Vance had ever been to Ukraine. Vance got angry and spoke of “propaganda tours”. Zelenskyy tried to answer and suggest that the US could feel threatened by Russia some day. Trump interjected: “Don’t tell us what we’re going to feel.”

The men spoke over each other. Raising his voice, the US president said: “You’re not in a good position. You don’t have the cards right now.”

Zelenskyy responded: “I’m not playing cards. I’m very serious, Mr President. I’m the president in a war.”

Trump, pointing an accusing finger and descending into his worst self from the presidential debates, admonished: “You’re gambling with the lives of millions of people. You’re gambling with world war three and what you’re doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country that’s backed you far more than a lot of people say they should have.”

TV pro tip: Trump has spent so many campaign rallies warning about world war three that the phrase has lost its shock value.

Trump and Vance tried to scold Zelenskyy like an ungrateful child. Vance – who recently went to Munich to condemn Europe as being on the wrong side in the culture wars – demanded: “Have you said ‘thank you’ once this entire meeting? No.”

Zelenskyy tried to respond. Trump told him his country was in big trouble. He went on: “The problem is I’ve empowered you to be a tough guy and I don’t think you’d be a tough guy without the United States and your people are very brave. But, you’re either going to make a deal or we’re out.

“And if we’re out, you’ll fight it out and I don’t think it’s going to be pretty … But you’re not acting at all thankful, and that’s not a nice thing.”

How sharper than a serpent’s tooth it is to have a thankless ally!

Zelenskyy looked shellshocked. Trump, the eternal showman, commented on what great TV it would be, then wrote on social media that Zelenskyy “disrespected the United States of America in its cherished Oval Office”.

No deal was done. A planned press conference was cancelled. Zelenskyy drove away empty-handed, having just endured own diplomatic Chornobyl. As for the rest of Europe, a bust of Winston Churchill, looming over the shoulders of Trump and Vance, may have shed a tear or two.



lowfour
lowfour
2025-02-28
#259

@elarquitecto (post #257)

Joder, a China se la han puesto botando.

Yo creo que la jugada les ha salido mal. Van a sacar clips cojonodos para el Solomillov, pero en el resto del mundo han visto la emboscada, las mentiras y el ciberputismo que se gastan.

La han CAGADO. Encima Zelensky ha quedado como un GIGANTE.

No ha gritado, no ha sido irrespetuoso. Han ido a por el, lo ha visto todo dios.

Están muertos los cerdos... lo único que pueden hacer ahora es empezar a mandar armas a Rusia o matar a Zelensky.

Pero antes de eso los militares se levantan y los bombardean con GBUs guiadas por laser.

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-02-28
#260
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@lowfour (post #258) **Never has a US president bullied and berated an adversary,still less an ally, in such a public way**. Of course the reality TV star and wrestling fan turned US president had it all play out on television for the benefit of his populist support base – and a certain bare-chested chum in the Kremlin.



joder, que zelensky hizo esto la noche que le invadían los ruskis



que le daban por huído y nosequé

qué coño se cree trump que es zelensky, nomejodas



lowfour
lowfour
2025-02-28
#261
Edited 2025-02-28

Interesante leer el take de los ciberputis in chief de FOX NIUS

https://www.foxnews.com/world/heres-real-reason-trump-zelenskyys-deal-blew-up-oval-office



Here's the real reason Trump and Zelenskyy's deal blew up in the Oval Office


Zelenskyy says no deal to Trump



President Donald Trump's refusal to grant a key demand made by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy precipitated their explosive confrontation during a live press event at the White House.

A stunned world watched Friday as Vice President JD Vance and Trump reprimanded Zelenskyy in full view of reporters, with cameras rolling. From the moment the Oval Office event started, the dynamic between Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart was noticeably different from the two other press events Trump held with world leaders this week.

According to sources close to Zelenskyy, tempers had flared even before the event began. The Ukrainian president was apparently presented with a minerals for security agreement by the Trump administration prior to the press event, but the deal included no security guarantees to protect Ukraine from another Russian invasion.

Zelenskyy had warned repeatedly ahead of his trip to Washington, D.C., that, in order to reach a mineral agreement, Kyiv needed these security assurances. Even so, he angered Trump and Vance by rejecting the deal, the source said.

Subsequently, just minutes after reporters asked their first questions, an aggressive spat unfolded between the heads of state that left officials behind the scenes scrambling to understand how the situation fell apart so quickly.

"We cannot just sign an … agreement without any substantial guarantees," one Ukrainian defense advisor told Fox News Digital. "It’s not going to work. It’s just going to reward the aggressor."

Zelenskyy’s refusal to sign a deal apparently contributed to the ire of Trump and Vice President JD Vance.

The White House has not confirmed the discussions that occurred ahead of the press event.

The heated spat unfolded after Trump suggested Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine in 2014 and again in 2022 because Trump wasn’t in office, blaming Democratic presidents Barack Obama and Joe Biden, who sat in the Oval Office at the corresponding times.

"Yeah, that's exactly right," Vance said.

Zelenskyy pointed out that Russia never stopped attacking Ukraine between 2014 and 2022, four years of which included Trump’s first term.

"Nobody stopped him you know," Zelenskyy said, adding that Putin repeatedly violated bilateral agreements.

"What kind of diplomacy are you … speaking about? What do you mean?" Zelenskyy asked at the White House after Trump said he was "aligned" with both Russia and Ukraine.

Vance interjected, saying, "I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in front of the American media."

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Zelenskyy has repeatedly pointed out that while the U.S. under the Biden administration approved substantial aid to Kyiv, it is Ukrainian soldiers fighting on the front lines to stop Russian aggression that poses a threat to all of Europe and could embolden adversaries like China, North Korea and Iran, which run counter to U.S. interests.

"You have nice ocean and don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future," he argued.

An angered Trump said, "Don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel."



lowfour
lowfour
2025-02-28
#262

El mierda este que paralizó la ayuda a Ucrania durante meses para hundirlos:



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Speaker Mike Johnson, who last year put his own job on the line when he brought to the floor a supplemental aide package to give more than $60 billion in aide to Ukraine, responded on social media to the explosive Oval Office meeting by praising President Trump. “Thanks to President Trump - the days of America being taken advantage of and disrespected are OVER,” he wrote, adding. “What we witnessed in the Oval Office today was an American President putting America first”



elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-02-28
#263

@lowfour (post #261)

sabes qué pasa? que sabemos mucho más sobre el acuerdo (no-acuerdo) usa-ucrania, que sobre lo que sea que estén negociado rusia-usa

no es sospechoso?

que alguno dirá, no, es que lo llevan en secreto porque así se negocia mejor y tal, sin presiones

ja!

lo que no tengo tan claro es que les haya salido mal, eh?

van a usar todo esto como arma contra ucrania y europa

es como lo del novio de la ayuso, que es un delincuente, pero denuncia al fiscal general y ahora hay más foco en el fiscal que en él... sin contar con que si ayuso fuera del psoe, estarían abrasando con que dimitiera y tal

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-02-28
#264

@lowfour (post #262)

ves? le van a dar la vuelta como sea

y ojocuidao que tenemos hiperdemostrado que la guerra ciberputi es favorable a putin

lowfour
lowfour
2025-02-28
#265

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del NYt

lowfour
lowfour
2025-02-28
#266

Creo que Zelensky ha ganado. Ha hecho perder los papeles a estos dos peleles malignos a sueldo de rusia.

Han perdido la cara completamente.

Recordad lo que siempre digo. El que se calienta pierde. Siempre.

lowfour
lowfour
2025-02-28
#268

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/02/zelensky-trump-putin-ukraine/681883/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_content=edit-promo

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Zelensky Walked Into a Trap


### Donald Trump and J. D. Vance appear to have entered today’s Oval Office meeting with the goal of generating a pretext for a diplomatic break with Ukraine.

By Jonathan Chait

Of the many bizarre and uncomfortable moments during today’s Oval Office meeting between Donald Trump, J. D. Vance, and Volodymyr Zelensky—during which Trump finally shattered the American alliance with Ukraine—one was particularly revealing: What, a reporter asked, would happen if the cease-fire Trump is trying to negotiate were to be violated by Russia? “What if anything? What if a bomb drops on your head right now?” Trump spat back, as if Russia violating a neighbor’s sovereignty were the wildest and most unlikely possibility, rather than a frequently recurring event.

Then Trump explained just why he deemed such an event so unlikely. “They respect me,” he thundered. “Let me tell you, Putin went through a hell of a lot with me. He went through a phony witch hunt, where they used him and Russia. Russia, Russia, Russia, you ever hear of that deal? … It was a phony Democrat scam. He had to go through it. And he did go through it.”

**Trump seems to genuinely feel that he and Vladimir Putin forged a personal bond through the shared trauma of being persecuted by the Democratic Party. Trump is known for his cold-eyed, transactional approach, and yet here he was, displaying affection and loyalty. (At another point, Trump complained that Zelensky has “tremendous hatred” toward Putin and insisted, “It’s very tough for me to make a deal with that kind of hate.”) He was not explaining why a deal with Russia would advance America’s interests, or why honoring it would advance Russia’s. He was defending Russia’s integrity by vouching for Putin’s character.**

In recent years, the kinship between Trump and Putin has become somewhat unfashionable to point out. After Robert Mueller disappointed liberals by failing to prove a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, conventional wisdom on much of the center and left of the political spectrum came to treat the scandal as overblown. But even the facts Mueller was able to produce, despite noncooperation from Trump’s top lieutenants, were astonishing. **Putin dangled a Moscow building deal in front of the Trump Organization worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and Trump lied about it, giving Putin leverage over him. Trump’s campaign chair, Paul Manafort, was in business with a Russian intelligence officer. Russia published hacked Democratic emails at a time when they were maximally useful to Trump’s campaign, and made another hacking attempt after he asked it on television to find missing emails from Hillary Clinton. The pattern of cooperation between Trump and Putin may not have been provably criminal, but it was extraordinarily damning.**

Conservatives have invested even more heavily in denying any basis for the Trump-Russia scandal. A handful of MAGA devotees have openly endorsed Russian propaganda, but more Republicans have explained away Trump’s behavior as reflecting some motivation other than outright sympathy for Moscow: He is transactional, he is a nationalist, he admires strength and holds weakness in contempt.

**And it is all true: Trump does admire dictators. He does instinctively side with bullies over victims. He does lack any values-based framework for American foreign policy. But many Republicans who acknowledged these traits nonetheless believed that Trump could be persuaded to stay in Ukraine’s corner. They were wrong. The reason they were wrong is that, in addition to his generalized amorality, Trump exhibits a particular affection for Putin and Russia.**

Immediately after Zelensky left the Oval Office, Trump posted to Truth Social, “I have determined that President Zelenskyy is not ready for Peace if America is involved.” The clear implication is that the United States will cut off its support for the Ukrainian war effort. Trump’s allies have already tried to foist the blame for that momentous decision onto Zelensky. Trump “felt disrespected” by the Ukrainian leader’s body language and argumentative manner, White House officials told Fox News. “Zelensky was in a terrible position,” National Review editor in chief Rich Lowry acknowledged on X, “but he never should have gotten sucked into making argumentative points.” And, he added, “he should have worn a suit.”

**All of this ignores the much more plausible explanation of what happened today: It was a setup. Trump and Vance appear to have entered the meeting with the intention of berating Zelensky and drawing him into an argument as a pretext for the diplomatic break. Why should anyone have expected anything different? Trump has been regurgitating Russian propaganda, not only regarding Ukraine, since before Zelensky even assumed office. He defended Russia’s seizure of Crimea in 2018 (the year preceding Zelensky’s election), has repeatedly refused to acknowledge Russian guilt for various murders, and has even stuck to Russian talking points on such idiosyncratic topics as the Soviets’ supposedly defensive rationale for invading Afghanistan in 1979 and their fear that an “aggressive” Montenegro would attack Russia, dragging NATO into war.**

In the past few weeks, Trump has made very little effort to conceal his pro-Russian tilt. He called Zelensky a dictator, and when asked if he would say the same about Putin, refused, insisting, “I don’t use those words lightly.” (No president in American history has used words more lightly than Trump.) He said Ukraine “may be Russian someday” and blamed Ukraine for starting the war. The U.S. even joined Russia, North Korea, and a tiny bloc of Russian allies to vote against a United Nations resolution condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

**The less damning explanations for Trump’s pattern of pro-Russia positions have all collapsed in the face of evidence. One line of defense, hauled out by Republican hawks to explain away Trump’s consistent efforts to undermine NATO, is that Trump actually wants to prod Europe into spending more on its own defense. Like a tough football coach, he is merely berating his team to become the best version of itself.

Except when European countries declared themselves ready to increase their defense spending to 2 percent of GDP, the level Trump claimed to have wanted, he upped the demand to 5 percent. More recently, he advocated for the election of the right-wing, pro-Russian, anti-NATO AfD party in Germany. That is a strange thing to do if your goal is to push allies to stand up for themselves against Russia, but a perfectly sensible position if your goal is to undermine the anti-Russia alliance.**

Republican Russia-hawks hoped they could bring Trump around by getting Ukraine to sign a deal handing over a portion of its mineral wealth to the United States. Instead, Trump announced that the mineral deal was dead. This, too, would be a strange move if his motives were purely transactional, but a very understandable one if his motives were to abandon Ukraine to Putin’s tender mercies.

**Even today, Trump’s bullying commenced well before Zelensky had opened his mouth. Trump greeted his counterpart on the White House driveway with condescending mockery, pointing at him and telling onlookers, “He’s all dressed up today,” like Bill Batts in Goodfellas belittling Joe Pesci’s character.** (“Hey, Tommy, all dressed up!”) Zelensky’s attire—the Ukrainian president wears military attire, not a suit, to remind the world that his country is at war—has been a fixation on the right, and conservatives have seized upon it as a pretext to blame him for Trump’s anger. **Oddly, they did not seem to mind that Elon Musk showed up at the White House this week in a T-shirt and baseball cap.**

Might Zelensky have gotten a different outcome by taking Trump’s abuse and stream of lies with more self-abasement? Sure, it’s possible; if you reason backwards from a bad outcome, any different strategy is almost axiomatically smarter. **Zelensky had no good options at the White House. He walked into an ambush with a president who empathizes with the dictator who wants to seize Ukraine’s territory. Everyone who spent years warning about Trump’s unseemly affinity for Putin had exactly this kind of disastrous outcome in mind.**


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