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elarquitecto
elarquitecto
Started 2025-02-08
857 posts
elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-03-27
#571

ya os comenté que si esto no tenía consecuencias penales, era indicativo de que usa está ya bastante avanzada en su "putinización" de sus instituciones

nomejodais con que son unos parguelas inútiles que se cagan encima cuando les interrogan en el senado, estamos viendo los últimos coletazos de una democracia centenaria

(vale, me pongo un poco dramas, pero yoquesé, pinta guano)



elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-03-27
#572

igual en una de estas, la cagada de los truchos hace que mueran marines y tal, y entonces lo mismo vemos alguna reacción

pero ahora mismo, no veo nada de eso

están arrasando con todo y no pasa nada

Image

cortan fondos a la agencia federal de emergencias porque va a parar a "inmis" (se ve que esos son no-humanos o algo así, hay que tener los huevos de granito para justificarlo así), y de paso se funde todo tipo de ayuda a todo tipo de personas

así que al próximo huracan, tornado, inundación incendio forestal, etc etc, van a comer piedras (y ni hablemos de reconstruir nada)

y no pasa nada

Cinta_de_Carromero
Cinta_de_Carromero
2025-03-28
#573

@elarquitecto (post #561) No sé qué cojones es maximalista, lo que te veo es un progre exagerado como el calvo de Grecia que le tiene más miedo al batallón Azov que a Rusia.

lowfour
lowfour
2025-03-28
#574
Edited 2025-03-28

@lowfour (post #568)

Mira. Lo que hablábamos ayer. El know how que Ucrania ha tenido, desgraciadamente, que desarrollar es súper valioso.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/s/NiuYxUQvXZ

Los truchos del tráiler park, cegados por su oligofrenia y codicia, lo van a perder.

En el equipo de Zelensky piensan y cada paso que dan lo miden muy bien. Se juegan el genocidio orco.

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-03-28
#576

@lowfour (post #575)

declaración de que zelensky está haciendo un magnífico trabajo parando a los ruskis y a los truchos

a putin ni agua, claro, ni la hora le das, que te invade

menudos hijosdeputa, van perdiendo (porque no van ganando, no es que ucrania les esté barriendo precisamente) y se ponen maximalistas

lowfour
lowfour
2025-03-28
#577
Edited 2025-03-28

Lo que pasa es que da yuyu mandar tropas de UK y Francia (no se si es psyops, pero parece que va perdiendo fuerza la idea). Pero bueno... igual mandando 200 cazas bien modernos mantienes a los orcos a tomar por culo de lejos.

Los suecos empiezan a enseñar el pequeño pero matón Gripen.

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1jlbt3t/natos_newest_ally_is_sending_its_gripen_jets_made/

El Gripen aterriza y despega en cualquier carretera rural sueca. Imposible de localizarlos y destruirlos si no los tienes en una pista todos alineados. Además tiene mucho menos mantenimiento.

lowfour
lowfour
2025-03-28
#578
Edited 2025-03-28

Yo solo os digo una cosa... como empiece a llegar pasta de la EU para I+D militar a Suecia van a salir unas movidas que no os podéis imaginar. Meten pasta a raudales en materiales, deeptech, tecnología punta... está lleno de startups y de grupos de investigación que con un poco de pasta te sacan aviones stealth o la estrella de la muerte si hace falta.

La inventiva y capacidad de ingeniería de los suecos es algo brutal, es lo mejor que tienen.

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-03-28
#579

@lowfour (post #578)

es por esto que me resulta tan estomagante el rechazo de los "progres" al "rearme"

que vale que es un poco siniestro lo de "invertir" en armas y tal, pero es que no-invertir no te garantiza paz en absoluto (posiblemente es al revés), el argumento de que más armas es más guerra es dudoso

pero la cagada suprema de todo esto es justo eso que dices, que las aplicaciones y las movidas que salgan de esas investigaciones pueden generar patentes, puestos de trabajo, etc que ni imaginamos, efectivamente

como la mayor parte de los políticos son unos tolais de "letras" (si es que han pasado por alguna facultad o algo así), y el que más "mates" ha cursado es economista (esa ciencia que es más trucha que ciencia), desconocen que los mayores avances en ingeniería y en desarrollo fueron precisamente en ocasiones de grandes guerras

ahí están los desarrollos navales, los de aviones, los de blindados, los de carreteras y vías logísticas, internet era aplicación militar, los satélites los lanzaron militares, cables submarinos para tener correos de los "espías" en tiempo real, etc etc

toda la mecánica del suelo que estudiamos los arquitectos fue "creada" en los años de la ww2 porque había que tener "calculado" cómo se comportaba el terreno para los zapadores y cuerpo de ingenieros, antes iban a base de "ojímetro" y tal

en fin, cagada conceptual de la progresía patria

lowfour
lowfour
2025-03-28
#580

@elarquitecto (post #579)

Cagada?

Yo creo que es un torpedo pro-ruso en toda la linea de flotación. De Podemos seguro, de Sumar puede que sea por estupidez, pero lo dudo sabiendo que tienen dentro a IU.

" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="text-blue-600 hover:text-blue-800 underline">[The Seven Commandments of Fake News | NYT Opinion
](


[How Russian Money Helped Save Trump’s Business
](https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/)


[‘The perfect target’: Russia cultivated Trump as asset for 40 years – ex-KGB spy
](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book)


[Foundations of Geopolitics
](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics)


[Aleksandr Dugin’s Foundations of Geopolitics](https://tec.fsi.stanford.edu/docs/aleksandr-dugins-foundations-geopolitics)

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-03-28
#582

@lowfour (post #580)

a ver, alguno habrá pro-ruso delamuerte y tal, y muchos estarán aun en podemos, pero yo entiendo que esto es más del pce (anti-otan forever)

no es que sean pro-rusos, es que son anti-yankis

la jodienda es que ahora los yankis son pro-rusos, deben de tener un cacao conceptual cojonudo, porque es como estar contra el imperialismo favoreciendo el imperialismo, está la cosa raruza

pero vamos, que los que yo conozco (alguno ex-belarro) si son anti-belicistas no es porque sean pro-rusos precisamente (no son los de burbuja que jaleaban los crímenes de guerra rusos, ni las cintaspamers ruskis de tuiter y esas cosas)

es ceguera ideológica detodalavida, en el pce (iu para más señas) hay mucho "intelectual" que no se baja del burro porque sería reconocer que es un poco gilipollas

son incapaces de comerse el sombrero como hago yo cuando meto la pata

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-03-28
#583

@lowfour (post #581)

joder, pásaselo a tu colega esa de bruselas, no?? pero que se lo puto lea, mecagonsandios

que aquí pensamos que en la ue se están poniendo las pilas, pero luego descubrimos que andan dando palos de ciego aun

es que me parece increíble que estemos aquí más "lúcidos" que los que se supone que curran (les pagan) por ver todas estas cosas, eh??

" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="text-blue-600 hover:text-blue-800 underline">[The Seven Commandments of Fake News | NYT Opinion
](


> [How Russian Money Helped Save Trump’s Business
](https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/)

> [‘The perfect target’: Russia cultivated Trump as asset for 40 years – ex-KGB spy
](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book)

> [Foundations of Geopolitics
](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics)

> [Aleksandr Dugin’s Foundations of Geopolitics](https://tec.fsi.stanford.edu/docs/aleksandr-dugins-foundations-geopolitics)



es que pasa una cosa, si os fijáis, no es necesario estar "a sueldo" de rusia para ser pro-ruso

en lo de zelensky de la casa blanca, el ojostiznaos y culicagao soltaron toda la propaganda ruski que les "encajaba" en su idea anti-ue, pero eso no significa que curren para putin de forma directa

nosotros sabemos que es propaganda, ellos piensan que es info que la ue trata de ocultar o ucrania porque claro, son nazis o algo así

aunque fijo que la tulsi sí curra para los rusos, a sueldo

lowfour
lowfour
2025-03-28
#585
Edited 2025-03-28

@elarquitecto (post #582)

De ceguera nada, se ve que no te has leído a Semprún, cuando era Federico Sánchez en el PCE y los rusos decidían todo lo que se decía y se opinaba y lo purgaron. Normal, ellos pagaban la fiesta.

PCE = Marioneta rusa

IU = Los restos del PCE

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-03-28
#586

@lowfour (post #585)

que sí, joder, que alguno hay, sin duda

pero como yo conozco a los tronaos que no son semprun, pero aspiran a ser "intelectuales" orgánicos o algo así, te puedo decir que son idiotas, pero del todo, no unos cínicos pro-ruskis que van de intelectuales

no son solomillov, hay mucho que son simplemente adoctrinaos (y lo mismo para el culicagao y tal)

a ver, que luego igual nos enteramos que el bardem recibe pasta rusa o algo así, pero yo creo que firma todo eso del "no a la guerra" por pura idiotez o ceguera ideológica

en el pce quedan restos de marionetas ruskis, sin duda, pero hace tiempo que rusia no es "soviética" y por algo hubo esa escisión hace una década en iu que se llamó "podemos" y que fue financiada por iran

así que si proviene de "belarros" casi seguro es spam ruso, pero si viene de sumar no, son idiotas, y si viene de iu ya la cosa se pone difícil de dilucidar

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-03-28
#587

Image

el ojostiznaos en groenlandia

a ver si con un poco de suerte se pierden por ahí y acaba congelao o algo así

lowfour
lowfour
2025-03-28
#588
Edited 2025-03-28

@elarquitecto (post #587)

Que lo cacen los Inuits y lo sequen como la carne de foca.

lowfour
lowfour
2025-03-28
#589

Los americanos ahora piden más de Ucrania. Vamos, un acuerdo que es un acuerdo de colonización. No tienen verguenza y acabará mordiéndoles en el culo.

https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/03/28/ft-ukraines-officials-call-us-minerals-deal-robbery-as-washington-expands-demands/



FT: Ukraine’s officials call US minerals deal “robbery” as Washington expands demands


The draft agreement, reviewed by the Financial Times, expands Washington’s demands for control over Ukraine’s lucrative natural resources, granting the US a veto over a proposed investment fund and prioritizing its financial interests.



**The US is pushing for a broad new agreement on the control of Ukraine’s rare minerals and energy assets, without offering Kyiv any security guarantees in return, while aggressively expanding its previous demands, according to the Financial Times.**

A new draft agreement, sent to Kyiv on 23 March and reviewed by the journalists, goes beyond the initial joint economic deal reached last month as part of US President Donald Trump’s efforts to end Russia’s war and recoup billions in military aid.

Senior Ukrainian officials have warned that the proposal could undermine their country’s sovereignty, direct profits abroad, and deepen its dependence on Washington.

**The document marks a sharp escalation in the Trump administration’s efforts to secure control over Ukraine’s lucrative natural resources as it pushes for an end to the war. It would cover all mineral resources, including oil and gas, across Ukraine’s entire territory.**

**Washington is demanding that Ukraine and the US establish a supervisory board to oversee a joint investment fund, which would distribute revenues from oil, gas, and mineral projects between the two nations.**

**The US would appoint three of the board’s five members, giving Washington full veto power over the fund.** On 26 March, US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said that the agreement could be signed as early as next week.

**However, three senior Ukrainian officials said that this was unlikely. One called the new US proposal “unfair,” while another likened it to “a robbery.”**

A third official said a team of legal advisors had been brought in to help the government review the document and prepare a counterproposal.

**The Ukrainians are expressing frustration over Trump’s increasing pressure to compromise in exchange for a ceasefire and lasting peace, even as the Kremlin shows no signs of ending its aggressive actions.**

Speaking at the summit in Paris, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said the US was “constantly” changing the terms of the agreement. However, he added that he did not want Washington to think Kyiv was opposed to the deal.

**The new Trump administration proposal would replace the previous framework agreement on joint mineral resource development, which Kyiv and Washington agreed upon last month.**

**That deal, which would have established a fund in which Ukraine would contribute 50% of future mineral resource profits, was never signed following a catastrophic Oval Office meeting between Trump and Zelenskyy.**

**Under the new proposal, the fund would cover projects undertaken by the Ukrainian government itself, as well as those approved by Kyiv or state-owned entities.**

**The agreement also extends to infrastructure linked to natural resource extraction, such as roads, railways, pipelines, ports, and processing plants.**

**Funds generated under the latest proposal would be converted directly into foreign currency and sent abroad, while Ukraine would be responsible for covering any compensation in case of delays or disputes.**

**The US would receive royalty payments from the fund before Ukraine, with a 4% surcharge, and would retain priority rights over infrastructure projects and a veto on selling resources to third parties.**

Although the deal does not include provisions granting the US ownership over Ukraine’s nuclear energy infrastructure—a controversial idea floated last week by Trump—Ukrainian officials remain wary that nuclear assets could still be on the table in future negotiations.

A source familiar with the matter said the nuclear issue had been raised in previous discussions but was deliberately excluded from this iteration of the proposal.



Cinta_de_Carromero
Cinta_de_Carromero
2025-03-28
#590

Gran parte de los progres como el calvo de Grecia no son antimilitaristas sino nostálgicos de la URSS, por eso sacan un antimilitarismo como tapadera de su apoyo a la horda turcomongola, porque se creen que la URSS tiene algo que ver con lo de ahora.

La prueba del algodón es que si llegara a existir un sólo gobierno fascista en todo el planeta, ahí sí que querrían todas las armas del universo para arrasarlo. Acordaros del calvo griego y su grupito progre 1968ista cómo se cabrearon en una videoconferencia oficial entre el parlamento griego y un soldado del batallón Azov al que el gobierno ucraniano había elegido para hablar con ellos porque era de padres griegos y creo que hablaba griego. Todos esos progres, que eran ultraequidistantes con Ucrania y tenían el discurso más prorruso que se podían permitir en ese momento, lo que veían ofensivo no era que un país imperialista y expansionista se intentara quedar con un vecino, sino hablar con lo que ellos llaman un "fascista". Son progres, capitalistas, neoliberales, comunistas etc... lo que sea antes que "fascistas", su ideología es anti- antes que cualquier otra cosa.

Cuando se muera la generación de comunistas trasnochados como el calvo griego o Juan Carlos Billetero y Farlopero y la de Manu Chao (Iglesias, Errejonazos etc...) estén demasiado aburguesados, yo creo que se acabará esa ideología extemporánea y absurda que es apoyar a la Rusia putina desde la izquierda.

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-03-28
#591

@lowfour (post #589)

eso en mi barrio lo llamamos extorsión

vamos, que si quieres que te proteja, paga

si no, dejo que mi socio te siga machacando el negocio

de todos modos, todos sabemos (bueno, todos no) que están haciendo teatrillo, los ucranianos no quieren saber nada de los truchos, porque saben que son unos pro-rusos del copon, pero tienen que hacer como que sí porque así ganan tiempo y no les dejan con el culo al aire (especialmente con defensa anti-aérea)

lo gracioso de todo esto es que al final lo de las tierras esas igual es un poco bluff, eh?? lo que deberían exigir los truchos es el i+d en drones que están creando en ucrania, aunque igual no lo piden porque de alguna manera ya se lo pasan (a cambio de la info anti-misiles y tal, o vete a saber)

te imaginas que luego resulta que les han vendido un secarral donde no hay ni media tonelada de tierras raras?

o que como son unos subnormales, esas tierras en la negociación con rusia, son rusas, y ponte a negociar con ellos entonces

lowfour
lowfour
2025-03-28
#592

@elarquitecto (post #591)

En mi barrio eso se llamaba "oye tienes un mechero, oye dame un segarro, oye dame lo que tengas encima, sácate lo que tengas en los bolsilllos, cuidao o te pincho".

Vamos un atraco de macarra de barrio.

lowfour
lowfour
2025-03-28
#593

Si los Ukros estuvieran gobernados por Feijoo me temería lo peor para ellos. Pero como están gobernados por peña que sabe de qué va la movida y no son unos mierdas del pisito, pues tengo fe en que van a salir bien de esta. Por mucho que el gordo les quiera sirlar, por mucho que el gnomo tarado los quiera genocidar... creo que van a salir bien porque están leyendo bien las jugadas.

Mientras el gordo culicagao pierde el culo por cerrar cualquier acuerdo de mierda con Putin y poder marcarse un tanto que no se va a poder marcar... mientras los psicópatas del trailer park intentan negociar como negocia un puto palillero cacique de pueblo y robar (que es lo único que saben hacer)... pues Ucrania "Si Bwana" y mientras tanto te reviento una base de bombarderos estratégicos nucleares con un misil homemade.

Es que no veo tan fácil para USA el pegar la sirlada a Ucrania. No lo veo nada fácil. Si, les cortaron las armas in la info... pero ya están buscando alternativas de satélites, de información... toda la EU+Canada han visto la jugada, de repente USA es mucho menos USA de lo que eran hace 6 meses.

Qué van a hacer? Mandar cazas desde la EU para bombardear Ucrania apoyando a Rusia? Todo eso en "territorio enemigo"?


lowfour
lowfour
2025-03-28
#594

Bueno, el otro día descubrí un podcast australiano creo que es... que estaba escuchando y era la bomba. Lo que pasa es que lo escucho medio dormido ya... y no me enteré del todo. Pero analizaban todo este guano de Groenlandia y del carril Ruso-Trumpista por el ártico. Y me quedé con esto:

"Mira, mucho hablar y mucha historia, pero lo que hay que leer son cómo actúan las aseguradoras. Ese carril ya está abierto desde hace mucho tiempo, pero las aseguradoras no aseguran nada porque es ultrapeligroso. No aseguran ningún barco ni ostias. Es todo una fantasmada".

**Episode Title/Theme:**

A deep dive into the geopolitics and economics of the Arctic—covering everything from Greenland’s independence debates and Russia’s Arctic militarization to the feasibility of new shipping routes.




---

Key Points in Bullet Form



1. **Arctic Hype vs. Reality**


  • - **Mismatch Between Promises and Practice:** There’s significant talk of “ice-free” routes, mineral riches, and major shipping shortcuts, but actual uptake by commercial shippers and mining companies remains minimal.

  • - **Quote:** “If something is supposedly a ‘game-changer’ that saves big business money, but big business isn’t jumping on it, then somebody’s missing something.”

  • - **Insurance and Infrastructure:** High insurance premiums, few ports for refueling or repairs, minimal search-and-rescue infrastructure, and dangerous ice conditions offset any savings from shorter Arctic routes.


  • 2. **Economics & Shipping Routes**


  • - **Numbers on Shipping Distances:**
  • - Traditional Asia-to-Europe route (via the Suez Canal) ≈ 20,000 km, ~26 days of transit.

  • - Northern Sea Route (across Russia’s Arctic) ≈ 15,500 km, ~22 days – yet the insurance can cost millions more than going via Suez.

  • - **“Ice-Free” Doesn’t Mean Ice-Free:** Seasonal windows may lack *permanent* ice, but drifting ice and extreme storms still pose huge risks.

  • - **Insurance Costs:** Arctic voyages can add around **\$2 million** in premiums—eclipsing the 3–4 days of fuel/time savings.


  • 3. **Resource Extraction: Oil, Gas, and Rare Earths**


  • - **High Extraction Costs:** Estimates of \$100–\$250 **per barrel** to extract oil in some Arctic areas; not profitable at current global oil prices.

  • - **Greenland’s Rare Earths:** Potentially large deposits but uncertain viability. Companies are wary of extreme conditions and poor infrastructure.

  • - **Quote:** “It’s about future potential, but a lot of variables still stand in the way of major Arctic resource booms.”


  • 4. **Greenland’s Independence and US–Denmark Tensions**


  • - **Greenland’s Strategic Importance:** Houses **Thule Air Base**, a key NORAD early-warning radar. Offers vantage over the Arctic for missile defense.

  • - **Election & Independence Polls:**
  • - ~84% of Greenlanders favor independence, but ~90% reject a US takeover.

  • - Denmark currently subsidizes ~two-thirds of Greenland’s budget.

  • - **Trump’s “Buy Greenland” Comments:** Sparked tension; experts note it’d be an economic burden for the US.

  • - **Quote:** “You don’t need to own a country to have a good security or economic relationship with it.”


  • 5. **Russia’s Arctic Military Posture**


  • - **Bastion Defense Concept:** Northern Fleet, strategic bombers, and submarine bases on the Kola Peninsula near Norway’s border.

  • - **Bases vs. Reality:** Despite new radar sites and upgraded airfields, each outpost often has only **150–200** personnel. Significant, but not a large invasion force.

  • - **Russia–China Cooperation?** Overstated at times; many Sino-Russian Arctic plans have stalled due to sanctions, costs, or local pushback.


  • 6. **Svalbard (Spitsbergen) Scenario**


  • - **Unique Legal Status:** Norway administers Svalbard but can’t militarize it; any nation can work and live there (by the 1920 treaty).

  • - **Russian Settlements:** Once thousands of Soviet miners lived there; now ~400–500 Russians remain.

  • - **Potential “Hybrid” Grab:** Analysts imagine Russia inserting “little green men” via coal shipments. However, Svalbard holds little strategic value versus the enormous logistics cost of sustaining forces there.


  • 7. **NATO, Scandinavia, and Defense**


  • - **Finland & Sweden in NATO:** Strengthens northern European defense. Already trained with NATO for years, but the Baltic and Arctic are still harsh, costly theaters.

  • - **Operational Challenges:**
  • - Arctic weather can ground airpower and ice ships in hours.

  • - “If you make every mistake in the Arctic, you could be dead in two or three hours.” (on extreme cold-weather survival)

  • - **Quote:** “It’s not a ‘Mediterranean in the north.’ People underestimate how harsh these conditions really are.”


  • 8. **Conclusions**


  • - **Costs Over Capabilities:** High infrastructure needs and operating costs deter private industry.

  • - **Geopolitical Tensions:** Several flashpoint scenarios exist (Greenland’s independence, Norway-Russia friction at Svalbard), but each offers limited strategic or economic payoff—especially given the diplomatic blowback of seizing territory.

  • - **Insurance & “Boring Spreadsheets” Matter:** The “boring details” of insurance premiums, search-and-rescue capacity, and port infrastructure seem to shape Arctic policy decisions more than grand Arctic narratives.



  • ---

    Selected Numbers & Statistics


  • - **\$2 million** – The extra insurance premium estimated for Arctic shipping transits.

  • - **\$100–\$250** per barrel – Possible extraction cost for Arctic oil in more remote areas.

  • - **20,000 km vs. 15,500 km** – Suez route distance vs. Northern Sea Route distance from Shanghai to Rotterdam.

  • - **84%** – Greenlanders who favor independence in a 2025 poll.

  • - **90%** – Greenlanders who reject the idea of US annexation.

  • - **1,700 km** – The distance from Norway’s primary air base to Svalbard, complicating quick military responses.



  • ---

    Memorable Quotes


  • 1.

    **On Economic Hype:**


  • - *“People confuse ‘ice-free’ with ‘easy shipping.’ There’s still floating ice, severe storms, and minimal rescue infrastructure.”*


  • 2.

    **On Cost-Benefit for Industry:**


  • - *“If it truly saved shipping lines massive money, they’d be using it already—but they aren’t.”*


  • 3.

    **On Harsh Arctic Realities:**


  • - *“You can survive a week in a desert making every mistake. In the high north, you might not survive a single night.”*


  • 4.

    **On Greenland’s Autonomy:**


  • - *“You don’t have to own it to cooperate on defense or resources. Annexing Greenland would be an expensive, reputational nightmare.”*



  • ---

    Bottom Line


    Despite some dire headlines, the Arctic still poses enormous operational and financial barriers. While countries like Russia, the US, and Denmark watch the region closely—and smaller powers like Greenland push for independence—real-world economics, insurance premiums, and infrastructure limitations constrain the grand “Arctic rush” people often imagine. The biggest Arctic players remain more concerned about nuclear deterrence and defense posture than about plunging billions into new shipping routes or resource projects that simply don’t pencil out yet.

    lowfour
    lowfour
    2025-03-28
    #595

    Image


    elarquitecto
    elarquitecto
    2025-03-28
    #596
    >

    @lowfour (post #594) “You don’t have to own it to cooperate on defense or resources. Annexing Greenland would be an expensive, reputational nightmare.”



    esto lo lleva(mos)n diciendo un chorro tiempo ya, con panama y tal igual, es que no necesitas puto-poseer la tierra para hacer el casino resort golf pelotazo delamuerte groenlandia-a-lago

    pero es que no va de eso, va de hacerse un "mckindley" y anexionar tierras porque sí, porque esto es "esparta" y ya

    es ideología trucha-fascista

    y por eso es tan peligroso, porque sus coordenadas lógicas son muy diferentes y operan en otra "época" más bien

    la movida es que nos quieren meter de vuelta a esa época, al medievo, del tirón

    ya hemos analizado esta mañana lo que están haciendo en la propia administración, "comisarios políticos" y ruptura de la separación de poderes (les falta maniatar el judicial, pero ya lo tienen bastante ligado, como estamos viendo)

    de hecho, tampoco es que funcione el "cuarto poder", porque la propaganda debe de ser brutal para que no se les caiga el circo de las mil ~~colinas~~ pistas que tienen montado

    lowfour
    lowfour
    2025-03-28
    #597

    Menudo guano está montando el Culicagao, mejor reirse no?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14544213/Putin-threatens-Arctic-WAR-says-United-States-taking-Greenland-NATO-seen-possible-foothold-long-time.html



    Putin threatens Arctic WAR ahead of US Vice President Vance's visit to Greenland and claims NATO is using region as 'springboard for conflicts'



    Vladimir Putin is threatening an Arctic war as tensions grow ahead of US Vice President JD Vance's visit to Greenland.

    He said Russia will station more military personnel in the Arctic and his country would defend its interests in the region amid Donald Trump's push to take control of the autonomous Danish island.

    'We are talking about serious plans on the American side with regard to Greenland. These plans have long-standing historical roots,' Putin told an Arctic forum in the northern city of Murmansk.

    'This may surprise some, only at first glance,' said the Kremlin dictator, who seeks the Trump's backing for his own claims on Ukrainian territory. 'It is a profound mistake to believe that these are some kind of extravagant talks of the new American administration. Nothing of the sort.'

    Putin said Russia is worried that 'NATO countries in general are increasingly designating the Far North as a springboard for possible conflicts', with Russia monitoring the situation and preparing an appropriate response.

    'It is obvious that the role and importance of the Arctic both for Russia and for the whole world is growing. But unfortunately, geopolitical competition, the struggle for positions in this region, is also intensifying,' he added.

    Putin appeared to give his blessing to Trump to make a land grab for Greenland - and even hinted the US President might grab Iceland, too.

    He said: 'In fact, the United States had such plans back in the 1860s. Even then, the American administration was considering the possibility of annexing Greenland and Iceland. But this idea did not receive support from Congress at the time.'

    This comes as JD Vance is set to visit Greenland with his wife Usha on Friday - making him the most senior US official to visit the territory amid a growing war of words following threats from Donald Trump to take the island over.

    Ahead of the visit, the Vice President suggested that the self-governing Danish territory has not received enough defence support from Copenhagen, arguing that global security is at stake.

    'Speaking for President Trump, we want to reinvigorate the security of the people of Greenland because we think it's important to protecting the security of the entire world,' he said in an online video.

    In an apparent jibe after a comment he made about Europe 'free-loading' off the US for its defence was revealed on Monday, Vance added: 'Unfortunately, leaders in both America and in Denmark, I think, ignored Greenland for far too long.

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    'That's been bad for Greenland, it's also been bad for the security of the entire world. We think we can take things in a different direction, so I'm gonna go check it out.'

    President Trump has irked much of Europe with claims that the US will get control of the mineral-rich territory 'one way or another', with tensions ratcheting up as leaders from Greenland and Denmark condemned the US approach as 'aggressive'.

    Against this backdrop of widespread backlash against Washington, Denmark has taken changes to the US delegation's itinerary as a diplomatic victory.

    The VP's decision to visit a US military base Pituffik in northern Greenland, rather than doing a tour of the country, has removed the risk of violating potential diplomatic taboos by sending a delegation to another country without an official invite

    The Vances will visit the base instead of Usha Vance's previously announced solo trip to the Avannaata Qimussersu dogsled race.

    'I have to speak diplomatically here, but in many ways it's a masterful spin to make it look like they're escalating when really they're de-escalating,' Danish Foreign Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen told Danish broadcaster DR earlier on Wednesday.

    But Løkke also said it was 'positive' that the 'Americans have canceled their visit among Greenlandic society. 'They will only visit their own base, Pituffik, and we have nothing against that.'

    President Trump has irked much of Europe with claims that the US will get control of the mineral-rich territory 'one way or another', with tensions ratcheting up as leaders from Greenland and Denmark condemned the US approach as 'aggressive'.

    Greenland's Prime Minister this month declared 'enough is enough' in response to Trump's threat to dispatch soldiers to annex the island.

    'We have a couple of bases on Greenland already and we have quite a few soldiers. May be you will see more and more soldiers go there,' Trump threatened on March 13. 'We have bases and we have quite a few soldiers on Greenland.'

    Mute Egede summoned fellow political leaders to discuss a plan to beef up their rejection of Trump's plan.

    'The US president has once again aired the thought of annexing us,' Egede said in a statement. He added: 'Enough is enough.'

    Jens-Frederik Nielsen, who will be the next prime minister after his Demokraatit party won Greenland's parliamentary election, also turned on Trump.

    'Trump's statement from the US is inappropriate and just shows once again that we must stand together in such situations,' he said.

    'It's obvious that the United States will continue to systematically advance its geostrategic, military-political and economic interests in the Arctic,' Putin said as he said Russia would expand its operations in Greenland.

    Putin vowed to boost his military presence in the region. He also wanted to see an expansion of tourism in the Arctic, where he has plans to exploit vast mineral wealth.

    Putin, who is keen to ramp up commerce via the Northern Sea Route (NSR) through Arctic waters as Russia shifts trade towards Asia and away from Europe because of Western sanctions, said Russia had never threatened anyone in the Arctic, but was prepared to defend its interests.

    Foreign partners prepared to cooperate with Russia in the region would be guaranteed a good investment return, he said in a major speech in the northern city of Murmansk.

    Putin called for an expansion of Russia's northern ports and the building of a merchant fleet in the Arctic, supported by new-generation icebreakers including nuclear-powered ones.

    But he said Russia's domestic capabilities were insufficient for this at the moment, and that it would also require buying vessels and interacting with foreign shipbuilders.

    The Arctic holds fossil fuels and minerals beneath the land and the seabed that could become more accessible with global warming.

    It is also an area of military competition, where defence analysts say Russia has built up its presence much faster than the West by reopening Soviet-era bases and modernising its navy.

    Greenland, which is seeking independence from Denmark, is strategically located between North America and Europe at a time of rising US, Chinese and Russian interest in the Arctic, where sea lanes have opened up because of climate change.

    Denmark has rebuffed Trump's calls to take over the island and says the people of Greenland have shown they do not want to be part of the United States.

    By acquiring Greenland, Trump said he would ensure continued US access to Pituffik Space Base - despite there being no current threat to stop access.

    Is Putin bluffing?

    Yes

    No

    Not sure

    'We need Greenland for national security purposes,' Trump repeatedly said after declaring he would not rule out the use of military force or economic pressure in the form of brutal tariffs on Denmark to seize control of the island.

    Global warming is causing the ice in Greenland to retreat, opening up shipping lanes and access to incredible riches, making the region a new geopolitical and economic asset, with the US, Russia, China and others wanting in.

    Greenland boasts valuable rare earth minerals needed for telecommunications, as well as uranium, billions of untapped barrels of oil and a vast supply of natural gas that used to be inaccessible but is becoming less so as the ice is retreating.

    Many of the same minerals are currently being supplied mostly by China, so other countries such as the United States are interested, Ohio University security and environment professor Geoff Dabelko said.

    Three years ago, the Denmark government suspended oil development offshore from the territory of 57,000 people.

    The world's largest island is now 'central to the geopolitical, geoeconomic competition in many ways,' partly because of climate change, Dabelko said.

    Off Greenland's shores, the US Geological Survey estimates there could be 17.5 billion undiscovered barrels of oil and 148 trillion cubic feet of natural gas, though the remote location and harsh weather have limited exploration.

    Around the Arctic Circle, there's potential for 90 billion barrels of oil.

    Aside from oil, gas or mineral, there is a 'ridiculous' amount of ice in Greenland that plays a key role in regulating global weather, according to climate scientist Eric Rignot of the University of California, Irvine.

    If that ice melts, it would reshape coastlines across the globe and potentially shift weather patterns in such a dramatic manner that the threat was the basis of a Hollywood disaster movie.

    Greenland holds enough ice that if it all melts, the world's seas would rise by 24 feet (7.4 meters). Nearly a foot of that is so-called zombie ice, already doomed to melt no matter what happens, a 2022 study found.

    Since 1992, Greenland has lost about 182 billion tons (169 billion metric tons) of ice each year, with losses hitting 489 billion tons a year (444 billion metric tons) in 2019.

    'Think of Greenland as an open refrigerator door or thermostat for a warming world, and it's in a region that is warming four times faster than the rest of the globe,' said New York University climate scientist David Holland.

    Greenland will be 'a key focus point' through the 21st century because of the effect its melting ice sheet will have on sea levels, said Mark Serreze, director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado.

    Serreze added: 'It will likely become a bigger contributor in the future.' That impact is 'perhaps unstoppable,' Holland said.

    Greenland is part of the Danish realm along with the Faeroe Islands, another semi-autonomous territory, and has its own government and parliament.

    Greenland's 57,000 residents got extensive home rule in 1979 but Denmark still handles foreign and defense policies, with an annual subsidy of $670 million.

    Its indigenous people are not wealthy, and vehicles, restaurants, stores and basic services are few.

    Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen addressed Trump's intent to buy Greenland in January, saying that she did not believe that the US will use military or economic power to secure control over the island.

    She also called the US Denmark's 'most important and closest ally' and repeated that she welcomed the US taking a greater interest in the Arctic region, but that it would 'have to be done in a way that is respectful of the Greenlandic people'.

    'At the same time, it must be done in a way that allows Denmark and the United States to still cooperate in, among other things, NATO,' Frederiksen said.

    But this it not the first time an American president suggested buying the island.

    There were two failed attempts by US to purchase it: President Harry Truman tried to buy it for $100 million in 1946 and the State Department inquired about it in 1867.

    elarquitecto
    elarquitecto
    2025-03-28
    #598

    @lowfour (post #597)

    reirse, sin duda

    está el putin aprendiendo que si creas lazis te llenas de guano lazi

    elarquitecto
    elarquitecto
    2025-03-28
    #599

    @lowfour (post #597)

    Image

    a ver si lo de la mochila esa de emergencia de vonderleyen no era por putin, sino por culicagao...

    venganomejodas, amenaza y todo el joputa de ojostiznaos

    lowfour
    lowfour
    2025-03-28
    #600

    @elarquitecto (post #599)

    Espera que tengo cosas ricas que contar del mierda ese, el que se llevaba todas las collejas en el cole por haberse escapao del cotolengo y ahora quiere ser un supervillano

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/jd-vance-once-wrote-convinced-202801892.html



    JD Vance once wrote that he 'convinced myself that I was gay' when he was a kid


    JD Vance wrote in "Hillbilly Elegy" that he once became convinced he was gay when he was a kid.

    "The only thing I knew about gay men was that they preferred men to women," he wrote.

    His grandmother quickly put that notion to rest, asking him: "JD, do you want to suck dicks?"

    According to Sen. JD Vance's best-selling "Hillbilly Elegy," the Ohio senator once told his grandmother that he thought he might be gay.

    Vance, now former President Donald Trump's vice presidential nominee, recounted the tale in his 2016 autobiography as he discussed his grandmother's relatively tolerant approach when it came to Christian teachings.

    In Vance's telling, the episode occurred when he was just a kid. As he wrote:



    >

    "I'll never forget the time I convinced myself that I was gay. I was eight or nine, maybe younger, and I stumbled upon a broadcast by some fire-and-brimstone preacher. The man spoke about the evils of homosexuals, how they had infiltrated our society, and how they were all destined for hell absent some serious repenting. At the time, the only thing I knew about gay men was that they preferred men to women. This described me perfectly: I disliked girls, and my best friend in the world was my buddy Bill. Oh no, I'm going to hell."

    > When he brought up the issue with his grandmother — known to Vance as "Mamaw" — she replied bluntly: "Don't be a fucking idiot, how would you know that you're gay?"



    When Vance explained his reasoning, she laughed.

    "JD, do you want to suck dicks?" she said, according to the book.

    The young Vance, apparently "flabbergasted," said: "Of course not!"

    "Then you're not gay. And even if you did want to suck dicks, that would be okay," she replied. "God would still love you."

    Vance wrote that the episode helped him recognize that "gay people, though unfamiliar, threatened nothing about Mamaw's being. There were more important things for a Christian to worry about."

    Vance contrasted that approach with the one taken by his biological father, Donald Bowman, who he reconnected with when he was 11. Vance's father was a member of a more religiously conservative church, the ideology of which had "made the world a scary and foreign place," in Vance's recounting.

    Now a 39-year-old US senator, Vance has largely opposed LGBTQ rights, including opposing the Respect for Marriage Act, a bill to protect same-sex marriage that passed before he was sworn into office.

    Over the course of his 18-month Senate tenure, Vance's focus has been directed more toward curtailing transgender rights, rather than gay rights. Last year, he introduced a bill to criminalize gender-affirming care for minors.

    "Most Americans, I think, don't really care about same-sex marriage," Vance told Business Insider last year.



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