Musk, Trump, Thiel y la obsesión de las élites ultraliberales por la tierra

lowfour
lowfour
Started 2025-02-06
290 posts
elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-06-01
#271

@lowfour (post #270)

ostia, no ha sido solo un maga, ha sido carapedobear!

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elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-06-01
#272

@lowfour (post #265)

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están tirando al cuerno a los coleguis del ketaminico

ostia!! purga interna!! madremia, esto también lo vimos antes... (más o menos, más bien menos)

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elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-06-04
#273

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vale que la noche de los cuchillos largos está siendo más bien la larga turra de los truchos a "pioletazos" o algo así

pero ahí siguen... más o menos.. con las purgas

es que esto es muy típico, eh?? estás purgando a peña y luego purgas al que purga, de manual

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-06-05
#274

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chavales, qué os dije?

reich trucho de los mil años

le dicen "estado" porque "dictadura" es como muy duro de asimilar, pero le va mejor

luego podríamos discutir si en la ue no estamos también implementando ciertos "controles" que se asemejan a esa "tecnovigilancia" de corte totalitario

pero qué pasa? que estos mierdas venían a "liberarnos" de la opresión "woke" y de todo el control financiero (jejeje, han liberalizado los triles, no la fiscalización del ciudadano)

ahora que se pase cinta a decirnos que lo del control bancario anti-blanqueo de capitales es "dictadura" porque no le dejan pagar los zulos en cash negro como el carbón, que pagar en cash es saluc o algo así...

mucho mejor lo del reich trucho, verdad?? porque "libertad"!!!

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-06-05
#275
Edited 2025-06-05

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che, esta mañana era el reich trucho de los mil años

esta tarde es la "guardería" trucha de los mil niñatos

venganomejodas

oye lowfour, igual no es mala jugada ponerse "corto" en tesla...

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o qué??

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-06-05
#278

@lowfour (post #276)

pero eso qué quiere decir?? que hackeó las elecciones o que infló a propaganda trucha tuiter??

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-06-05
#280

bueno, poca pegada, pero mala baba

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lowfour
lowfour
2025-06-05
#281

Yo a MrKeta le veo colgándose de las escaleras de su mansión. Es lo que veo.

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-06-05
#282
Edited 2025-06-05

@lowfour (post #281)

bueno, eso será la versión oficial, la no-oficial...

fíjate que creo que la no-oficial esta vez no incluye a soros, eh?

Cinta_de_Carromero
Cinta_de_Carromero
2025-06-05
#283

Que se joda el turcochino calvo reinjertado y hormonado que va llamando "pedos" a todos los que no le dan la razón.

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-06-06
#284

@elarquitecto (post #274)

de los creadores de el reich trucho de los mil años, hoy presentamos...

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pone "essays" en plural, eh?? no es que sea una suerte de carta de admisión

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qué será lo siguiente?? llevar un pin en la solapa con la imagen del fuehrer?? o como le llamen al culicagao?? ah, sí, taco!

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2025-08-13
#286

@lowfour wrote in post #3:

# The Butterfly Revolution, Curtis Yarvin 2022

  • Context: Trump’s 2024 campaign is framed as a "regime in exile," aiming to re-enter power with enhanced executive authority.


  • Problem: Trump...

Goal: Full reboot of the U.S. government through legal and symbolic mechanisms.

está pasando esto ahora mismo en washington o simplemente es el típico golpe de estado, donde tomas militarmente la capital y cancelas la constitución y tal... solo que a cámara lenta, para hacerlo más sutil y que nadie se te eche a la calle

lowfour
lowfour
6d ago
#287
Edited 6d ago

Mira, esto acojona bastante ya. Esto dicen que sucedió en un encuentro cerrado con Thiel en Paris hace poco.

la obsesión con el anticristo.

On January 26, a working meeting of the members of the academy with Peter Thiel took place at the French Institute of Moral and Political Sciences. The academics wanted to get acquainted with the future plans of the American billionaire, one of the most influential people in the world, the ideological and financial organizer of the rise to power of Donald Trump and James David Vance, which are enveloping the whole world. I was given an unexpected opportunity to participate in this meeting.

Thiel's invitation to the most prestigious academic institution in France was met with a lot of controversy: that day the country's media flashed with provocative, questioning, mocking or praising the academic's courage headlines. It must be admitted that the scientific legitimization of Thiel, which occurred with such an invitation, may be subject to criticism. However, he differs from other billionaires and Trump supporters – Musk, Bezos, Ellison, Zuckerberg – in that he bases his world vision and its detailed implementation scientifically and philosophically (as well as theologically). Other powerful people realize the possibilities offered by technology without asking too much about their meaning for human life, while for Thiel the question of meaning is fundamental. Therefore, French academics wanted to talk to him live: in order to grasp the intentions that may determine our future, one needs to directly touch the consciousness of their author and see the twists and turns of thinking, not just read the texts prepared for publication.

Peter Thiel did not give the impression of a billionaire. Modest and even, it seemed to me, overwhelmed with excitement, next to eminent academics he seemed simple and easily accessible. At first, he reminded me of a doctoral student shyly defending his dissertation theses before a high commission. But halfway through the message, the restraint evaporated and Peter seemed to ignite from within: the gradually emerging elevated intonations testified to the talent of a televangelist, perhaps even the charisma of a prophet. I remembered that it was Thiel's powerful speech in 2015 that led to the transition of many Republicans to the side of candidate Trump. That is what he is called in Republican ranks: "The Prophet".

Upon arriving at the Academy (due to the large crowd of journalists and protesters, he was entered and exited through a side door), Thiel introduced himself as a "classical liberal" and a "humble traditional Christian". Perhaps many Christians around the world and Lithuania would have been impressed by such an introduction, but it surprised me. Everywhere I read, he calls himself a libertarian. And in one of his interviews, Elon Musk, a close friend of 30 years, described him as follows: “I’m a kind of libertarian, but Peter is an extreme libertarian.”

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Libertarianism is a view that denies the possibility of reconciling individual freedom with the common good. Thiel himself, in his 2009 article-manifesto “Education of a Libertarian” (Education of a Libertarian) has stated that he does not believe that personal freedom is compatible with democracy. And that he is a Christian is known to everyone, because he considers faith in Jesus to be the most important thing in life and talks about it everywhere and always. Being interested in Thiel's views, I always asked how it is possible to profess the Christian faith and be an extreme individualist. Therefore, I listened carefully to the ideas presented at the meeting.

I remembered that it was Thiel's powerful speech in 2015 that led to the transition of many Republicans to the side of candidate Trump. This is what he is called in Republican circles: "The Prophet".

Before introducing them, I must remind you that Thiel is the founder or main investor of many companies that have entangled the world, and that his every step as an entrepreneur is based not only on the pursuit of profit, but also on a carefully argued philosophy. With these steps as an entrepreneur and investor, Thiel has been implementing his well-established architecture of the new world for more than 30 years. His vision of the future world is a humanity without states, divided into several thousand units, managed by artificial intelligence according to the model of a business enterprise.

Thiel's philosophy of founding companies, which he speaks about quite openly in numerous articles, interviews and reports, is as follows: all the projects he initiates or invests in are aimed at the emancipation of people from any political authorities, primarily from the state. Thiel has established himself in the history of global business as the founder of Paypal and the main investor in Facebook. Founded in 1999, Paypal was supposed to become a platform for an international currency independent of states, allowing individuals to develop financial relations that depend only on them, and not on politicians. And the task of Facebook, born in 2004, is to "spontaneously unite people into associations that operate beyond traditional states".

His vision of the future world is a humanity without states, divided into several thousand units, managed by artificial intelligence according to the model of a business enterprise.

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Almost all other projects supported by Thiel so far were initiated by young entrepreneurs who worked at Paypal (the so-called Paypal mafia) and were supposed to serve the same purpose - to highlight individuals, freeing them from the state: in 2002, Reid Hoffman founded LinkedIn, a network connecting professionals from all walks of life, in 2005, Chad Hurley, Steven Chen and Jawed Karim launched YouTube, giving everyone the opportunity to share their creative work, regardless of national regulations, not long after, Elon Musk founded SpaceX, which set itself the goal of conquering space through private, not state, efforts, Jeremy Stoppelman and Russel Simmons founded Yelp, and David O. Sacks founded Yammer, communication companies that bring together individual entrepreneurs.

In 2004 Thiel created Palantir, a data collection company that could be used by the CIA and FBI, but would also compete with them, thus transferring their functions to private hands. He has established the Thiel Fellowship, a scholarship awarded to young students who are willing to leave their studies for 2 years in order to realize some bold business project: thus creating an alternative to classical and community-bound universities. Thiel also finances the Enhanced Games sports project: athletes have the right to compete while using doping, thus freeing themselves from regulation, rising above the level of mediocrity, awakening the supernatural powers of the individual.

And so that people living freely would not be disturbed by political authorities, Thiel inspired the Seasteading project: artificial islands should be created in international waters, to which libertarians from all over the world would move. Everything is designed so that enterprising people living in any corner of the Earth have the opportunity to surpass state regulation, communicate directly, and form associations to the extent that it is beneficial to each of their businesses. Individual initiatives are above the state. This is how Thiel summarizes his plans: “We are participating in a competition between politics and technology – it will end with the death of one of them. The fate of the world depends only on the individual, only on the person who is able to construct and distribute technological means that will allow us to be free and make the world favorable for the development of capitalism.

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At the meeting with French academics, Thiel paid much attention to the analysis of the modern world and relied not even on philosophical, but on theological, biblical categories. The main theme of his report was as follows: today, before our eyes, the struggle between Christ and the Antichrist is taking place, the battle of Armageddon, described in the Revelation to St. John. Who is Christ, and who is the Antichrist? I will summarize Thiel’s thought. Western civilization, the university, science, born of Christ, is technological progress. The peak of progress reached in our time is artificial intelligence. He is Christ.

But the Antichrist is not sleeping. Since the mid-20th century, Western society has been infected with a fear of technology, which has given rise to political regulation and inhibition of scientific progress. After the creation of the atomic bomb, technology began to be associated with war, and peace with regulation, with the need to supervise, prohibit, and limit technological progress. This gave rise to an organization that supposedly protects peace - the United Nations and the international order it spreads. Thiel identifies the international order regulated by laws as the Antichrist order, the purpose of which is to stop the development of artificial intelligence, the spread of Christ in humanity.

The United Nations and the international order it spreads. Thiel identifies the international order regulated by laws as the Antichrist order, the purpose of which is to stop the development of artificial intelligence, the spread of Christ in humanity.

In his statement, the billionaire named two names, two “Legionaries of the Antichrist”: Greta Thunberg and Eliezer Yudkowsky, an artificial intelligence engineer whom Thiel once financed and who now, as if frightened by the progress of AI, has begun to demand its ethical and political regulation. Of course, the supporters of the Antichrist are numerous, the struggle is fierce. Supporters of a law-governed international order cultivate fear in humanity – fear of artificial intelligence, war, climate change and other fears.

Now we understand why Thiel considers Donald Trump a soldier of Christ: the destruction of the international order is Christ’s struggle against the Antichrist.

One academician asked Thiel a question: is it not necessary to link artificial intelligence with other expediencies of society’s development – ​​social needs, psychological state, culture, ethics? A diplomatic answer was given: such coordination should not become a brake on the development of AI. Putting aside diplomacy and knowing Thiel’s point, this answer means that the development of AI is an end in itself, that all other social or ethical needs must be subordinated to it. After all, isn’t the development of AI the spread of Christ’s kingdom on earth?

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Now we understand why Thiel considers Donald Trump a soldier of Christ: the destruction of the international order is Christ’s fight against the Antichrist.

When asked about his future plans at the French Academy, Thiel simply refused to answer this question, thereby surprising the audience (the answer was enigmatic and strange – I should comment on it separately). But his vision of the future world is well known. It is connected with the idea of ​​another US thinker, Curtis Yarvin, that the US and the world should return to pre-revolutionary times (meaning the 18th century US Democratic Revolution and the Great French Revolution), abandon democracy and return to feudalism. States should become monarchies again (Trump is the king of the USA?)

In agreeing with the idea of ​​​​reviving fiefdoms, Thiel differs from Yarvin in that he is even more radical: it is necessary to abandon the state altogether, establishing, as I have already mentioned, some 5,000 units (fiefdoms), each of which would be governed by the principles of a business enterprise by one or more entrepreneurs capable of being truly free people. Other members of the enterprise (fiefdom) (all of us) would obey them, because by nature we cannot be free. Thiel revives a classic philosophical theme known as the dialectic of master and slave. Artificial intelligence is a powerful instrument that will allow the free to preserve this dystopian order forever (I will not comment here on Thiel's transhumanist project - the immortalization of the free).

We may be surprised. Why does Thiel, who speaks against the state, support Trump? Doesn’t this president emphasize a strong nation-state and its absolute sovereignty? Don’t he and his supporters want the “America First” slogan and the entire MAGA movement to be repeated everywhere – in every country in the world? How does this fit with Thiel’s ambitions to divide humanity into 5,000 pieces?

At first glance, Thiel’s decision to support Trump seems incompatible with his plans. It’s no wonder that he has been so surprising to all the other Silicon Valley gurus since 2015. But when you think about it, the motives for this decision become clear and logical. After all, Trump is destructive. Having destroyed the international order, having strengthened the power and ambitions of a few of the strongest states (small states will naturally become their vassals), he will, perhaps unintentionally, cause tension and war – global chaos. The ruins left by Trump – a new construction site – are exactly what Peter Thiel, and probably other billionaires who cherish the idea of ​​a dystopian society, need. That is why they support Trump. They use him as a bulldozer, which, having destroyed the old world, will be able to construct a new one using artificial intelligence: dystopian, religiously mystical and hierarchical, anti-democratic and anti-state.

After the meeting with Thiel, the academics shared their impressions. One said that Thiel’s worldview was reviving the ancient Gnostic movement. Others speculated that the democracy of the United States and the world was truly in danger. One academic recalled some of Jacques Lacan’s insights and said bluntly: we had been in a meeting with a madman.

And I couldn’t get out of my head a verse from the Book of Revelation, the book that Peter Thiel likes to quote so much (Rev 13:11): “And I saw another beast coming up out of the land. He had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon.”

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
5d ago
#288

bueno, pues tenía yo razón al final, "es la ideología!!"

que sí, que luego se cruza con el choriceo detodalavida y el matonismo de mediopelo

pero al final del día están a tope con su rollo supremacista blanco y chupando cirios como un nacional-católico de hace 100 años

lowfour
lowfour
5d ago
#289
Edited 5d ago

A mi me da que el Thiel ese le intenta dar un corpus ideo-teológico al Ayn Randismo de toda la vida. Yo me lo he currao, que nadie me ponga trabas o impuestos porque soy mejor y tengo más pasta.

Básicamente lo que está diciendo es que AI es dios, porque es todopoderosa y va a liberar la capacidad de controlar el mundo, de alcanzar la inmortalidad para unos pocos y de todo.

El estado y los wokes y los reguladores son el diablo, porque nos impiden desarrollar todo el potencial de esta AI (es decir, para unos pocos, a los demás que les den viento fresco!).

Es entre un delirio y una declaración de intenciones.

A mi me acojona mucho todo esto eh? Creo que tu predicción de 2030 guanosos (llevas años diciéndolo, pero lo de ahora es otra movida que ni nos podíamos imaginar) se van a quedar cortos no, lo siguiente.

Estamos viendo las primeras luchas por controlar un nuevo mundo.

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
5d ago
#290

@lowfour wrote in post #289:

A mi me da que el Thiel ese le intenta dar un corpus ideo-teológico al Ayn Randismo de toda la vida. Yo me lo he currao, que nadie me ponga trabas o impuestos porque soy mejor y tengo más pasta.Básica...

sí, concuerdo en que están a tope con el corpus doctrinal de la nueva secta pro-ia

pero se mezcla con cristianismo de mala manera, eh?

anticristo a santo de qué? para tener un punto de anclaje con los maga? o porque realmente tiene ahí un factor de esoterismo que lo hace fanático total?

da cague, sí, mucho

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
5d ago
#291

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estoy escuchando de fondo al maillo y es como escuchar alguien del siglo pasado

están como en un marco "analógico" y no en uno "digital"

tremendo

que luego atinan con algunas teclas, como regular vivienda (no simplemente construir más) y cosas así

pero es como hablar de politonos y sms en un mundo con ia!! nomejodas

yo supongo que es porque están con la movida de "unidad" (como siempre, es más viejo que la tos) y parece todo como casposo... pero claro, en lugar de hablar de los retos de la ia, de los magnates, los flujos de personas (inmis en general) y los bloques, las guerras (ia ya) por los recursos y los controles mentales

pues no, que si nos vamos a juntar y toda la jerga esa de "buenrollista" que es como demodé o algo así

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