Ostia el Navalny ya "no está". Se lo han cepillado en la cárcel?
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https://www.elmundo.es/internacional/2023/12/11/65772ff1fc6c83313b8b458f.html
Algo pasa con la ofensiva rusa. Está atascada (II)
lowfour
Started 2023-07-03
1236 posts
pues zelensky aprovecha que pasa por amércia para visitar a biden
menudo viajecito se ha cascao, no?
le habrá llevao la carta de los reyes magos (o santa claus, que los gringos son más de eso y además viene antes), en plan, oye, esos bradleys que tienes apolillandose en nevada o colorado o por ahí, qué?? me los saldas o algo? que reviento a putin en dos tardes...
nono, si a mí lo que me va mejor es que putin esté jodiéndose tanques y tal durante años en tu país, que cada año que se jode ahí, se van a pasar otros 20 lamiéndose las heridas y dejando de molestar
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Pues hoy había un artículo BRUTAL del NYT diciendo que como la contraofensiva ha fracasado que USA y Ucrania ahora trabajan en encontrar una nueva estrategia. En resumidas de lo que recuerdo.
Y muchas cosas más importantes que me olvido.
El NYT ha sido desde el principio muy pesimista.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/11/us/politics/us-ukraine-war-strategy.html
U.S. and Ukraine Search for a New Strategy After Failed Counteroffensive
President Volodymyr Zelensky arrived in Washington at a critical moment, both on the battlefield and on Capitol Hill.
Yo creo que lo que pasa es que occidente no se puede creer que no hay vuelta atrás. Que es o Putin o nosotros. Tan sencillo como eso.
No van a parar en Ucrania, eso está claro. Osea que si están remoloneando por lo menos que pongan las fábricas de munición, javelins, drones y cazas a tope, porque se van a necesitar.
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Recordaba el otro día las palabras del sobrado nihilista del Arturo Pérez Reverte, que de vez en cuando suelta cosas muy serias. Pero siempre que en Occidente estamos reblandecidos, todo entre algodones, la PS5, el mcdonalds y tal. Pero que la vida ahí fuera es muy dura, la vida no vale un pimiento y tus nikes les importan tres cojones. Que hay malos, y que el mal radical existe, que lo ha visto muchas veces en las guerras. Que nos pueden patear el culo, porque no estamos preparados.
Yo creo que tiene toda la razón.
Nos creímos (yo el primero) que toda Rusia era Moscú o St Petersburgo o incluso donde vivía yo. Pues no.
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Enemy at the gates!
(OJO fuente muy regulera)
Donal Tusk no quiere rollos.
Los rusos no entrenan de noche, que de noche no pueden impresionar con sus tanques y sus pasos ridículos.
@lowfour (post #758)
pues esto es un poco como lo que comentábamos ayer sobre los drones y la electrónica de los javelins que es "ochentera" pero que algo tiene la gringa, que los ruskis no saben imitar
es que al final están anclados en 1990 o sea, en la urss, parece como si no hubieran innovado nada
y es comprensible tras el pifostio de la desintegración, pero yoquesé, un poco de cordura, no?
@lowfour (post #754)
yo sigo pensando que esta gente se cree que por tener 2 nukes ya no les tose ni dios, y luego pasan cosas, claro... aunque visto lo visto, tampoco les ha ido tan mal en estos últimos 20 años, de hecho, se anexionaron crimea como si nada
@lowfour (post #755)
pues fíjate que igual es al revés, los que tienen suerte de seamos "blanditos" son "ellos" con sus mierdas medievales, porque si nosotros jugásemos en esa liga, habría sido brutalmente volatilizados hace años... al primer tanque en crimea, se arma la de dios
pero bueno, en el fondo es verdad, el adocenamiento produce cintas y que abascal sea diputado y tal, y así los ruskis pueden medrar invadiendo lo que les sale del orto
mira israel, no se anda con paños calientes, si mueren en los bombardeos, es que no se apartaron a tiempo
porque claro, enfrente tienen a los del mal radical y a peña que no duda en decapitar bebés en sus cunas y tal solo porque son judios...
>@elarquitecto (post #759) a peña que no duda en decapitar bebés en sus cunas
Eso es mentira, fue otro "incubadoras de Kuwait" como era previsible.
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Perdonen las ausencias hamijooos, pero estoy en un proyecto harto complicado (pero que me hará millonario... LOL), mucha energía mental estos días.
Pero esto es interesante. Zelensky es un líder especial, no se cansa ni tira la toalla. Está reventado, se le nota, pero está luchando para mantener el tema Ukcraniano en la mente de todos. Y lo que me gusta es que se va al antro del mal MAGA Cintaspamer anti-LGTBI (la cadena FOX) para poner cara a "la ayuda a Ucrania" que la gentuza republicana a sueldo del Kremlin quiere parar.
Seguro que muchos yankees cortocircuitan... "pero, pero QUE COÑO! Hay que ayudar a luchar contra los rusos! Y estos cerdos GOP?". Es muy bueno, valiente hacer esto. De un líder bien asesorado.
Mira como el psicópata Foxista le pregunta sobre los inmigrantes en USA y Zelensky le hace una cobra que lo deja loco.
La verdad es que Zelensky impresiona, con sus carencias, con lo que quieras. Pero joder, llegan a tener a otro blando y ya habría firmado lo que fuera y cobrar dinero de Rusia. Este tío ya ha pasado a la historia.
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Hehehe, que se joda el gnomo que va a tener que seguir metiendo pasta en su Operación Mongólica Especial
Y van a caer otros 60USDB de USA
El dinero no es el problema en las guerras en las que participa EEUU, ya que desde su participación en la guerra de Indochina (Nixon quebró el dólar de ayudar a Worst Vietnam) lo pueden imprimir según lo van necesitando. Lo verdaderamente importante es la voluntad de ganar la guerra, por eso Afganistán con muchísima más ayuda militar y económica no duró ni 2 semanas desde la salida de EEUU, o el propio Worst Vietnam.
Ucrania tiene la voluntad de ganar, que es lo importante, podeis estar tranquilos que a estas alturas es prácticamente imposible que perdieran, no hay Dolchstoss que pudiera con ellos. Lo único que no se sabe todavía es si recuperarán todo el Donbas y Crimea, pero nada más, el neozar se ha quedado sin ejército y sin el almacén militar de la URSS.
Bueno... pues tacita a tacita...
Hoy había un artículo en Político donde describían la alternativa a no echarle huevos y ganarle la guerra:
Vamos, un pifostio brutal mucho más caro que enviar todos los juguetitos ahora.
Comentaban en Reddit también en relación a un vídeo de un Bradley repartiendo amor a 3 BMP´s que revientan (no se sabe si por el bradley o minas o yo que se). Y decían algunos que el Bradley (que es mortal) se sustituye ahora por otra máquina aún más capaz.
Entonces han empezado a decir que la tecnología militar rusa en los 60 y 70 era muy innovadora y occidente iba por detrás, pero que luego se han invertido las tornas y que lo occidental está a años luz. Que se habían probado el material occidental contra el ruso 2 veces
En la guerra del golfo contrra Irak. En teoría era el cuarto ejército del mundo el iraquí, todo armado con cosas rusas. T72, T62, etc... y que fue tan escandaloso que decidieron parar la ofensiva y bajar el tono porque se iba a volver contra ellos en temas de imagen pública.
La segunda vez fue en Siria cuando unos Wagner equipados hasta los dientes atacaron un destacamento USAno... los volatilizaron, los mataron a todos. Fue un escándalo brutal.
How a 4-Hour Battle Between Russian Mercenaries and U.S. Commandos Unfolded in Syria
WASHINGTON — The artillery barrage was so intense that the American commandos dived into foxholes for protection, emerging covered in flying dirt and debris to fire back at a column of tanks advancing under the heavy shelling. It was the opening salvo in a nearly four-hour assault in February by around 500 pro-Syrian government forces — including Russian mercenaries — that threatened to inflame already-simmering tensions between Washington and Moscow.
In the end, 200 to 300 of the attacking fighters were killed. The others retreated under merciless airstrikes from the United States, returning later to retrieve their battlefield dead. None of the Americans at the small outpost in eastern Syria — about 40 by the end of the firefight — were harmed.
The details of the Feb. 7 firefight were gleaned from interviews and documents newly obtained by The New York Times. They provide the Pentagon’s first public on-the-ground accounting of one of the single bloodiest battles the American military has faced in Syria since deploying to fight the Islamic State.
The firefight was described by the Pentagon as an act of self-defense against a unit of pro-Syrian government forces. In interviews, United States military officials said they had watched — with dread — hundreds of approaching rival troops, vehicles and artillery pieces in the week leading up to the attack.
The prospect of Russian military forces and American troops colliding has long been feared as the Cold War adversaries take opposing sides in Syria’s seven-year civil war.
At worst, officials and experts have said, it could plunge both countries into bloody conflict. And at a minimum, squaring off in crowded battlefields has added to heightened tensions between Russia and the United States as they each seek to exert influence in the Middle East.
Commanders of the rival militaries had long steered clear of the other by speaking through often-used deconfliction telephone lines. In the days leading up to the attack, and on opposite sides of the Euphrates River, Russia and the United States were backing separate offensives against the Islamic State in Syria’s oil-rich Deir al-Zour Province, which borders Iraq.
American military officials repeatedly warned about the growing mass of troops. But Russian military officials said they had no control over the fighters assembling near the river — even though American surveillance equipment monitoring radio transmissions had revealed the ground force was speaking in Russian.
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Syrian fighters who support the government of President Bashar al-Assad at a hospital in the eastern city of Deir-al Zour in February. The fighters were reportedly wounded in a United States airstrike near the city.Credit...Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
The documents described the fighters as a “pro-regime force,” loyal to President Bashar al-Assad of Syria. It included some Syrian government soldiers and militias, but American military and intelligence officials have said a majority were private Russian paramilitary mercenaries — and most likely a part of the Wagner Group, a company often used by the Kremlin to carry out objectives that officials do not want to be connected to the Russian government.
“The Russian high command in Syria assured us it was not their people,” Defense Secretary Jim Mattis told senators in testimony last month. He said he directed Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, “for the force, then, to be annihilated.”
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“And it was.”
Amassing forces
The day began with little hint of the battle that was about to unfold.
A team of about 30 Delta Force soldiers and Rangers from the Joint Special Operations Command were working alongside Kurdish and Arab forces at a small dusty outpost next to a Conoco gas plant, near the city of Deir al-Zour.
Roughly 20 miles away, at a base known as a mission support site, a team of Green Berets and a platoon of infantry Marines stared at their computer screens, watching drone feeds and passing information to the Americans at the gas plant about the gathering fighters.
At 3 p.m. the Syrian force began edging toward the Conoco plant. By early evening, more than 500 troops and 27 vehicles — including tanks and armored personnel carriers — had amassed.
In the American air operations center at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar, and at the Pentagon, confounded military officers and intelligence analysts watched the scene unfold. Commanders briefed pilots and ground crews. Aircraft across the region were placed on alert, military officials said.
Back at the mission support site, the Green Berets and Marines were preparing a small reaction force — roughly 16 troops in four mine-resistant vehicles — in case they were needed at the Conoco plant. They inspected their weapons and ensured the trucks were loaded with anti-tank missiles, thermal optics and food and water.
At 8:30 p.m., three Russian-made T-72 tanks — vehicles weighing nearly 50 tons and armed with 125-millimeter guns — moved within a mile of the Conoco plant. Bracing for an attack, the Green Berets prepared to launch the reaction force.
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Russian trucks heading to Deir al-Zour, an oil-rich Syrian province that borders Iraq, last year.Credit...Omar Sanadiki/Reuters
At the outpost, American soldiers watched a column of tanks and other armored vehicles turn and drive toward them around 10 p.m., emerging from a neighborhood of houses where they had tried to gather undetected.
A half-hour later, the Russian mercenaries and Syrian forces struck.
The Conoco outpost was hit with a mixture of tank fire, large artillery and mortar rounds, the documents show. The air was filled with dust and shrapnel. The American commandos took cover, then ran behind dirt berms to fire anti-tank missiles and machine guns at the advancing column of armored vehicles.
For the first 15 minutes, American military officials called their Russian counterparts and urged them to stop the attack. When that failed, American troops fired warning shots at a group of vehicles and a howitzer.
Still the troops advanced.
From the horizon, a barrage of artillery
American warplanes arrived in waves, including Reaper drones, F-22 stealth fighter jets, F-15E Strike Fighters, B-52 bombers, AC-130 gunships and AH-64 Apache helicopters. For the next three hours, American officials said, scores of strikes pummeled enemy troops, tanks and other vehicles. Marine rocket artillery was fired from the ground.
The reaction team sped toward the fight. It was dark, according to the documents, and the roads were littered with felled power lines and shell craters. The 20-mile drive was made all the more difficult since the trucks did not turn on their headlights, relying solely on thermal-imaging cameras to navigate.
As the Green Berets and Marines neared the Conoco plant around 11:30 p.m., they were forced to stop. The barrage of artillery was too dangerous to drive through until airstrikes silenced the enemy’s howitzers and tanks.
At the plant, the commandos were pinned down by enemy artillery and burning through ammunition. Flashes from tank muzzles, antiaircraft weapons and machine guns lit up the air.
At 1 a.m., with the artillery fire dwindling, the team of Marines and Green Berets pulled up to the Conoco outpost and began firing. By then, some of the American warplanes had returned to base, low on either fuel or ammunition.
The United States troops on the ground, now roughly 40 in all, braced their defenses as the mercenaries left their vehicles and headed toward the outpost on foot.
A handful of Marines ran ammunition to machine guns and Javelin missile launchers scattered along the berms and wedged among the trucks. Some of the Green Berets and Marines took aim from exposed hatches. Others remained in their trucks, using a combination of thermal screens and joysticks to control and fire the heavy machine guns affixed on their roofs.
A few of the commandos, including Air Force combat controllers, worked the radios to direct the next fleet of bombers flying toward the battlefield. At least one Marine exposed himself to incoming fire as he used a missile guidance computer to find targets’ locations and pass them on to the commandos calling in the airstrikes.
An hour later, the enemy fighters had started to retreat and the American troops stopped firing. From their outpost, the commandos watched the mercenaries and Syrian fighters return to collect their dead. The small team of American troops was not harmed. One allied Syrian fighter was wounded.
Who led the ill-fated attack?
The number of casualties from the Feb. 7 fight is in dispute.
Initially, Russian officials said only four Russian citizens — but perhaps dozens more — were killed; a Syrian officer said around 100 Syrian soldiers had died. The documents obtained by The Times estimated 200 to 300 of the “pro-regime force” were killed.
The outcome of the battle, and much of its mechanics, suggest that the Russian mercenaries and their Syrian allies were in the wrong part of the world to try a simple, massed assault on an American military position. Since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the United States Central Command has refined the amount of equipment, logistics, coordination and tactics required to mix weapons fired from both the air and ground.
Questions remain about exactly who the Russian mercenaries were, and why they attacked.
American intelligence officials say that the Wagner Group, known by the nickname of the retired Russian officer who leads it, is in Syria to seize oil and gas fields and protect them on behalf of the Assad government. The mercenaries earn of a share of the production proceeds from the oil fields they reclaim, officials said.
The mercenaries loosely coordinate with the Russian military in Syria, although Wagner’s leaders have reportedly received awards in the Kremlin, and its mercenaries are trained at the Russian Defense Ministry’s bases.
Russian government forces in Syria maintain they were not involved in the battle. But in recent weeks, according to United States military officials, they have jammed the communications of smaller American drones and gunships such as the type used in the attack.
“Right now in Syria, we’re in the most aggressive E.W. environment on the planet from our adversaries,” Gen. Tony Thomas, the head of United States Special Operations Command, said recently, referring to electronic warfare. “They’re testing us every day.”
>@lowfour (post #766) La segunda vez fue en Siria cuando unos Wagner equipados hasta los dientes atacaron un destacamento USAno... los volatilizaron, los mataron a todos. Fue un escándalo brutal.
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Hostia pero eso no fue por diferencia de tecnología sino de que es un país contra una empresa de mercenarios, ahí Estados Unidos usó hasta F22 (creo que es la única ocasión en que los han usando oficiosamente), habrían destruido a cualquier otra empresa de cualquier país o tecnología, Blackwater ni ninguna otra puede enfrentarse a bombarderos en altura.
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@lowfour (post #768) Los que estaban y están buscando bronca eran los yankees de mierda invadiendo otro país (a Siria).
Es como si Rusia invadiera Suecia y se cargara con Su-34 a un grupo de Blackwater que sí está invitado por Suecia, también estaría mal. No hay ninguna deshonra en morir defendiendo un país contra agresores externos sino al contrario.
Y sí que lo hay en burlarse de una diferencia tan grande como la que hay entre una superpotencia y una empresa de mercenarios, porque como digo, Rusia podría arrasar con Su-34 a cualquier unidad de Blackwater porque sería usar cazabombarderos contra ciclados tatuados con armas muy ligeras. Eso sí, es la diferencia a favor que tienen que tener para poder ganar una guerra, que luego si no les pasa como en el empate de Corea, en la derrota vergonzosa de Vietnam o en los fracasos de Afganistán, Iraq y Libia.
Pero esto de enfrentarse al poder que te ataca en vez de rendirse es de valientes, como ha hecho Ucrania contra Rusia y como hizo Siria contra los terroristas enviados por los suníes. Algo que viendo cómo estás deseoso de venderte por cuatro duros y pensando que todos son de tu condición, desde luego que ni te imaginas que fuera posible.
@CintadeCarromero (post #769)
Venderme a quién?
La pregunta es si ya has entregado tu pasaporte?
Putin admits heavy losses as EU to open membership talks with Kyiv
Vladimir Putin held first major news conference in two years as Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky headed to Brussels
The EU has agreed to open membership talks with Ukraine.
European Council President Charles Michel said on Thursday: “The European Council has decided to open accession negotiations with Ukraine & Moldova.” Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelensky declared the move a victory “for Ukraine and all of Europe”.
The announcement came after Vladimir Putin inadvertently admitted that more than 300,000 Russian soldiers have died or been heavily wounded in the ongoing war. The figures are in stark contrast to the last death toll offered by the Kremlin, which suggested less than 6,000 troops in Ukraine had been killed.
During his first news conference since the full-scale invasion, he suggested that 244,000 Russians had been mobilised, before adding that 486,000 had volunteered to fight. He then proceeded to say that 617,000 Russians were fighting in Ukraine.
This figure roughly aligns with US estimates that were declassified earlier this week, which suggested that Russia had suffered 315,000 dead and injured troops in Ukraine. But the last time the Kremlin offered an estimate of the death toll was September 2022, in which they said only 5,937 soldiers had been killed.
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Otra victoria táctica de Putin?
La UE abre negociaciones de adhesión con Ucrania tras superar el veto de Hungría
Los Veintisiete toman una decisión histórica que Zelenski celebra como “una victoria para toda Europa”
EL CERDO LAMEFALOS PUTINIANOS DE ORBÁN no ejerció el veto, ausentándose de la reunión.
Montaron una unidad especial en plan VDV para echar a los ukros al otro lado del río donde Kherson. Los reventaron a todos.
Pues nada, Orban tocando los cojones de nuevo.
>@lowfour (post #770) Venderme a quién?
Llevas un año pensando que yo escribo propaganda en Internet por dinero, a pesar de que es lo opuesto a la realidad, porque no te puedes creer que alguien escriba lo que opina sin haber dinero por el medio.
@lowfour (post #774) 
es que se le estaba poniendo cara de prigrozin y putin le ha hecho la llamadita, ojo con los aviones, orban, que últimamente son poco seguros... y claro, ha tenido que bloquear la pasta
@elarquitecto (post #776)
No, que los de la EU les ha retenido 18Billones de Euros, les dieron ayer 10 y ahora quieren los otros 8. Cuando se los paguen, no hay problema para los 50 billones para Ucrania.
@lowfour (post #779)
A ver, hay dos tipos de granada básica (en la OTAN ahora mismo dos variantes de la misma granada), las ofensivas y las defensivas. Luego entramos en las "especiales"pero ese es otro mundo, hablando de las genéricas.
Tipo ofensivo (carga explosiva básicamente con una coraza de metal que hace de metralla), que confía en el efecto explosivo para dañar internamente. Se tiran a objetivos específicos y no van tanto por daño en área.
Tipo defensivo. Son las anteriores (tipo ofensivo) pero les pones una especie de cinturón de bolitas o metralla alrededor, para que con la deflagración pese menos el explosivo y más la metralla, para ocasionar más daño en área pero potenciamente menos grave (para parar al enemigo con más bajas aunque con menor probabilidad de muerte).
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