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Algo Pasa con la Ofensiva Rusa. 1000 días de Masacre (IV) WWIII
lowfour
Started 2024-11-20
1098 posts
Edited 2024-11-25
Attention que un avión de DHL se ha estrellado en Vilnius... Se reveló hace unos días que Rusia había metido paquetes explosivos en diferentes aviones de carga. No se ve explosión en el vídeo, pero no se puede descartar nada.
@lowfour (post #92)
ostia, pues como sea sabotaje ruski (eso se va a saber), lo mismo lo de de la guerra hibrida pasa a otro nivel, eh?
@elarquitecto (post #93)
"El Putinismo tiene algo de Al Qaeda"
Espera que el
La fuente es Le Monde.
Quizás le darán a elegir entre paracaidistas (que nunca han visto un paracaídas) o infantería de marina (que nunca han visto el mar), pero se supone que le meterán en una unidad ~~Dirlewanger~~ Storm-V.
@lowfour (post #96)
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/11/25/discussions-over-sending-french-and-british-troops-to-ukraine-reignited_6734041_4.html
id buscando búnker cómodo, que lo mismo toca usarlo o algo
@elarquitecto (post #98)
Necesitamos un nuevo emoticono de guano nivel dios
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It's raining ATACMS. HALELUJAHHHHH, ITS RAINING ATACMS....
El ruso este que eche la lotería, que menuda potra. No fue clusterizado porque bajó St Putin del cielo y le protegió con la bandera rusa.
La picadora de carne igual se gripa
Putin Is Throwing Human Waves at Ukraine, But Can’t Do It Forever
The Russian meat grinder strategy is terribly effective, terribly wasteful, and boundlessly cruel.
One of the bleakest places on Earth today is the central processing facility for the remains of dead soldiers in the Russian city of Rostov-on-Don, the logistical hub of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Designed to process hundreds of corpses at a time, this sprawling mega-morgue has been hopelessly overwhelmed for many months. Footage from the inside, posted by witnesses on social media, shows hundreds of bodies in various stages of decomposition and limbs strewn across the corridor floors. In wooden boxes lining the walls from floor to ceiling, row after row after row, are the lucky ones: those whose bodies were recovered from the battlefield, identified, sealed in zinc-lined caskets, and prepared for dispatch to their grieving relatives in the farthest corners of Russia. Many more corpses have been abandoned to rot in Ukrainian fields because evacuating them is impractical under the constant barrage of the defenders’ artillery and drones.
To be sure: These soldiers’ deaths are the necessary consequence of Ukraine’s right to defend itself against an illegal war of conquest. What’s more, many of these ordinary Russian soldiers likely committed despicable brutality and war crimes against Ukrainians, including defenseless civilians. But the horrific rate at which Russians are getting killed at the front—much higher than corresponding Ukrainian losses, although exact numbers are kept secret by both sides—points to two disturbing truths about the Russian way of waging war. First, a cruel disregard for human life extends to Russia’s own forces, which the Kremlin systematically deploys in so-called meat grinder and human-wave attacks. Second, mass death among Russian troops has become part of an increasingly explicit eugenics policy, by which the Kremlin seeks to rid Russia of undesirable elements and reconfigure the Russian population. The eugenics aspect of Russia’s war has long been an open secret, widely discussed on Russian talk shows and social media. Now, a high-ranking Russian politician has made it plain for the first time.
The numbers boggle the mind. With an estimated rate of 1,500 casualties per day, October was the bloodiest month of the war for Russia as President Vladimir Putin throws everything he has into battle. Estimates for total Russian war deaths range from 115,000 to 160,000, more than 10 times Soviet combat deaths in Afghanistan. Total Russian casualties—killed and wounded—are estimated at around 800,000. According to Anastasia Kashevarova, a rabidly pro-war Russian journalist, the average Russian infantry soldier lasts less than one month at the front before being killed. With casualties exceeding Russia’s ability to recruit fresh soldiers, few of the troops receive any serious training before they’re sent to assault the Ukrainian lines.
It’s not just lives that Russia is losing in astonishing numbers—equipment, too, is being lost at a rate far beyond what’s possible to replenish from weapons production or dwindling stocks. According to WarSpotting, an open-source intelligence project that uses video confirmation to track Russian equipment losses, Russia lost more than 500 pieces of heavy equipment in October—including tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, and aircraft—twice as many as during the Battle of Grozny from 1994 to 1995, whose catastrophic losses in men and equipment demoralized Russian forces and society at the time. Today, some of the largest Russian military storage bases have almost been stripped clear of equipment, with even old Soviet-era tanks and armored vehicles dragged to the front.
Russian politicians, pundits, and ordinary citizens, who fantasize publicly about mass murdering Ukrainians, make no secret of the view that their own soldiers’ lives are worth hardly more. The shift to World War II-style meat grinder tactics has been widely and passionately discussed on pro-war Telegram channels since the battle for Bakhmut, which began in the summer of 2022 and lasted almost an entire year. The battle marked a doctrinal shift from the failed concept of battalion tactical groups—composed of some of the most elite and efficient Russian units, such as paratrooper and special forces regiments—to Soviet-style mass frontal assaults.
_An improvised memorial near the Kremlin on Aug. 23, 2023, displays photos of Wagner Group mercenaries killed during the war in Ukraine.Ulf Mauder/Picture Alliance via Getty Images_
In Bakhmut, Wagner Group commander Yevgeny Prigozhin introduced what is now the standard Russian tactic of sending human wave after human wave of disposable infantry into the assault until the Ukrainian defenders’ guns jam or run out of bullets. In Wagner’s case, these were mainly convicts recruited from prisons with promises of freedom and mercenaries lured by exorbitant pay. Russia finally won the yearlong fight over the city’s smoldering ruins at the cost of at least 20,000 Wagner mercenaries alone. Later, the meat grinder policy was adopted for the entire Russian army, with each major unit setting up assault groups for that purpose.
It has been a terrifyingly effective tactic, but Russian casualties incurred by it are beyond comparison in recent military history. The battle for the Ukrainian town of Avdiivka alone may have cost around 16,000 Russian lives—and that appears to be a very conservative estimate circulated by Russian pro-war bloggers, who generally have an incentive to downplay their own side’s losses.
But Russian disregard for life is not just a question of battlefield tactics. What stands out is the deliberate cruelty. The Russian military has stunned the world with its wanton brutality toward Ukrainian civilians—including widespread rape, torture, killings, and abductions—and prisoners of war. (The latter are now routinely executed, another in a long list of Russian war crimes.) But the cruelty dispensed by officers on their own subordinates is also shocking. Russian Telegram channels are full of accounts of soldiers tortured for refusing or questioning orders, of seriously wounded troops sent to a certain death in an assault, and of Soviet-style barrier troops behind the front line, whose sole job is to shoot shirkers and deserters—also known as nullification. Suicidal human-wave attacks are both a means and an end: Commanders have reportedly assigned soldiers to these expendable units as a punishment for various disagreements or for the failure to pay a bribe.
Under these circumstances, it shouldn’t come as a surprise that many Russian soldiers choose to end their lives. By now, there are hundreds of videos online showing Russian soldiers shooting themselves through the mouth to spare themselves an even grislier death, knowing that there is little hope for medical evacuation on the Russian side.
An even more sinister aspect of Russia’s disregard of the value of life is the increasingly open framing of the war as a national eugenics project. “Spare people” with low “social value” is how Russian parliamentarian Aleksandr Borodai described his compatriots sent as cannon fodder to Ukraine in a leaked tape, the authenticity of which he later confirmed. Expendable manpower, he explained, can be thrown at Ukraine’s “bravest [and] boldest,” and “exhaust the enemy to the maximum.” Borodai isn’t just anybody: He’s a political consultant from Moscow who declared himself prime minister of the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic in Ukraine in 2014, and he’s now a member of the Russian parliament for the ruling United Russia party. Coming from someone this prominent, it is essentially a confirmation of how Russia is running the war.
_Relatives of servicemen join members of The Way Home women’s movement in Moscow on Feb. 3, demanding soldiers’ return from Ukraine front. Getty Images_
That the war has changed the composition of the Russian population has long been clear from the incomparably higher rates at which non-Russian ethnic minorities—Buryats, Tatars, Tuvans—are dying in the war. But these are not the only disfavored parts of the Russian population while the Russian leadership shields the politically important populations of Moscow and St. Petersburg, where unrest could endanger the regime and where much of the Russian elite resides. Prisons have been virtually emptied as inmates are sent to the bloodiest sections of the front. And the protection of the major urban populations in European Russia means that the more remote, poorer, and less ethnically Russian regions are bleeding out.
To compensate for the deliberate loss of “expendables” at the front, a crucial part of Moscow’s eugenics program is played by Ukrainians. Several million Ukrainians have been removed from the occupied territories and resettled in Russia, a disproportionate share of them women and children. In their place, Russian settlers are moving in. Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of these abducted children are now being Russified to strip them of any Ukrainian identity, a clear echo of the Nazi eugenics policy of shipping blond Polish children back to the Reich to be adopted and turned into Germans. Some of the Ukrainian boys are now old enough to be forcibly conscripted into the Russian army—yet another war crime on an already long list.
Russia still has numerical superiority, but its resources are not infinite. The suicidal Russian strategy of waging war, while effective, is not sustainable in the long term, especially with the Russian economy already showing signs of immense strain.
The fate of Russia’s invasion now effectively hinges on Western willingness to commit to Ukraine’s push for independence from Russia’s neo-imperialist aspirations. U.S. President Joe Biden’s final weeks in office may yet prove to be critical: His decision to grant Ukraine permission to strike key military targets inside parts of Russia with U.S.- and British-supplied weapons has already elicited an angry response from Moscow, even if there is nothing new about Ukraine using Western arms to strike vital targets in what Russia considers its lands, including illegally annexed Crimea. It’s up to the West to help Ukraine make sure that Putin loses his gamble as he throws everything he has against Ukraine before his equipment and trained soldiers run out. Catastrophic human losses won’t deter him, as they are deeply ingrained in Russia’s cruel way of waging war.
@lowfour (post #100)
ese es el que decía yo que habían sido atacams, no??
menudo desguace tienen ahí!
@lowfour (post #103)
pues espera que no estén en la otan esperando un poco esto para mandar las tropas y que no tengamos muchas bajas y arrasar con rusia (militarmente, claro)
estaría gracioso que meten putiners en usa, hungria, eslovaquia, rumanía y tal, pero vamos y reventamos el kremlin, elecciones "libres" y fin del putinato tal y como lo conocemos...
@elarquitecto (post #104)
Pensaba que decías el misil antiaéreo... Igual si han usado ATACMS porque llega lejos, pero mucha tralla me parece.
Edited 2024-11-25
Bueno... el detallista de Perun nos hace un balance de 1000 días de guerra, especialmente en lo que concierne a stocks de armas.
Se centra en el stock de Tanques, modelos, stocks en descampados, actualizaciones... y llega a la conclusión de que es absolutamente insostenible para Rusia. 2025 verá cuellos de botella importantes y en 2026 no tendrán tanques.
Unidades absolutas:
YA NO HAY T90's y los T80 (los mejores) están a punto de desaparecer.
T72 les quedan.
Los mismos datos pero por porcentajes
Las conclusiones.
Lo más interesante es que los tanques son una categoría que no está mal del todo, que otras categorías de armamento están totalmente arrasadas o esquilmadas.
El video está aqui
@lowfour (post #107)
buahchaval!!
pues como eso sea cierto (y tiene pintaca de que lo es), ahora entendemos las prisas de trump y putin por el relevo de biden y viceversa, las prisas de la otan por meter f16, atacams y de todo antes de enero
y me da que están viendo que no llegan (enero es prácticamente el mes que viene) y nos andan ya "enmarcando" que lo mismo hay que meter tropas otan en ucrania...
que lo de las nukes es una bravata y que los icbm esos son filfa soviética que no valen ni para limpiarse el culo... aunque como sigan tirando icbm lo mismo se buscan unas represalias (retaliate) del copón y medio
que dice el campbell que los chinos andan con el ojete escocio con lo del putin y best-korea, porque se les van a juntar la otan en plan "todos contra los truchos" y les van a joder la invasión de taiwan y tal...
aparte de que ahora los "otanistas" andamos relocalizando empresones estratégicos y tal para depender menos de ellos
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Espera que lo mejor es esto que vi esta mañana en el mapa interactivo histórico:
Estos son los impresionantes e imparables avances de todo el año en la principal zona de avance rusa:
Esos descampados bien valen 400.000 bajas!!!
Aquí en interactivo... incluso lo podeis poner en modo animación eligiendo una fecha y le dais al 5X para no dormiros.
https://deepstatemap.live/en#7/48.5820584/34.0905762
Edited 2024-11-25
El que ha muerto en el accidente del avión DHL de Vilnius era español!
https://apnews.com/article/lithuania-dhl-cargo-plane-crash-ff6382bb359c64ca2a345d50e523c396
Pero eso no es lo peor. AFP plantea que el gobierno alemán investiga si ha sido un atentado ruso o sabotaje como los que planeaban en su guerra híbrida.
He visto el vídeo y se ve como entra en pérdida una de las alas... y hace un roll hacia la derecha y se estampa primero con un ala. Cómo han podido sobrevivir 3 es inexplicable. Seguramente no sea cierto, o mala información. Si ha entrado en pérdida a pesar de ir tan rápido es que no tenían los flaps desplegados, la sustentación era baja y por tanto iban rápido para suplir con mayor velocidad con respecto al aire.
>Highly highly doubt it. ADS-B data indicates that their airspeed was very high during final (230kts indicated at the FAF, 200kts by 1,000ft). Their vertical speed also was higher (~-1,000-1,200fpm) for what their groundspeed was if they were following the ILS. Cloud layer at the time was reported to be overcast at 700ft, temporary at 500ft at times. At around that altitude on their approach when they were meant to become visual, their vertical speed increased, reaching -2,000fpm at one point before being reduced to -1,500fpm where it remained until the data stops. Unlike the 767 incident the other day, the crew never reported a problem to ATC in the audio available.
Otros dicen esto
>Another Video showing the path from the side:
>Looks like after the nose down seen in an earlier video they got into a high AoA and stalled into the ground. Icing? Wrong high lift devices setting? Or a plain CFIT (COLISION NO INTENCIONADA CONTRA TERRENO)? Sounds all reasonable, at least more than some other speculations.
Otro analisis en el foro airliners.net
>JOWinTokyo wrote:
> I'm not sure of the significance of that. Could it be an indication that maybe they were in a big hurry to get the plane on the ground? A fire on board for example?
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>fpetrutiu wrote:
> holczakker wrote:
> Video of the crash:
> https://www.linkedin.com/embed/feed/upd ... 2267472898
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>No high vertical speed, no fire seen from the outside.
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>**Looks like CFIT to me. Lined up with the runway, looks like stable approach under minimums to break out from the clouds, impacted the small hill before the runway as they did not have enough thrust to go around by the time they realized they were about to impact trees.**
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>I'll answer both in the one reply. By the FAF, they were meant to be at 2,700ft AMSL, which they were. However, they were travelling at 230kts indicated then. The FAF is 6.2nm from the runway. Generally at that point, you want to be 160-180kts by then (subject to speed restrictions, of course). From the IAF and IF (17nm and 11nm from the runway), they were meant to be flying at or slower than 230kts and 210kts respectively. The aircraft exceeded those speed restrictions, and actually made the aircraft overshoot the centreline for the ILS. So from the beginning, they were already going too fast.
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>By the time they reach 1,000ft, operators state usually that the aircraft MUST be stable if flying in IMC, otherwise a go around must be initiated. It was IMC in Vilnius at the time. The aircraft was almost certainly not. To be considered 'stable', the aircraft MUST be at landing speed (there is a leeway of being below VREF no more than by 5 knots and no faster than 20 knots above VREF). The aircraft MUST be on profile, both laterally and vertically. Vertically for an ILS, you should not be more than 1 dot below or above the glide by then and anytime beyond then. The aircraft MUST be configured to land (so landing gear down, flaps in landing configuration, speedbrake stowed). Unless briefed, vertical speed CANNOT be greater than -1,000fpm. Pitch and bank must be appropriate too. They were travelling at 200kts indicated when at that 1,000ft gate, which is certainly too fast to be at a landing speed and too fast to have their flaps in a landing configuration. The aircraft was certainly not stable at 1,000ft.
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>By 1,000ft and thereafter, their groundspeed should have been somewhere between 120-150kts GS with a vertical speed somewhere between -600fpm to 750fpm.
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>When they joined final, their groundspeed was around 200kts. On a 3-degree glide, like runway 19, target vertical speed at that GS should be -1,000fpm. The aircraft was descending faster than that for most of the final approach segment. As GS decreased slightly, VS should have decreased slightly too to around -850fpm with a 170kts GS. The VS did decrease to that at times, but did not stay there was subsequently increased again. So by the sounds of it, the aircraft was already below glide for most of the final approach segment.
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>By 500ft, the crew should have been visual with the runway. I can't find a NOTAM that indicates that the PAPIs were out-of-service.
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>In the last 30 seconds of ADS-B data, groundspeed dropped by quite a bit to 145kts, with vertical speed increasing to as much as -2,000fpm, before reducing to -1,500fpm right before the end. The headwind component should have been around 20-25kts by then (if no windshear was present). 30 seconds beforehand, GS was at 159kts and VS at -1,000fpm.
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>As reported elsewhere, there were no issues reported by the crew to ATC. If a fire did occurred, a "MAYDAY" would have been declared with track-shortening given to the aircraft. Neither occurred. The crew was handed off to Tower, in which they acknowledged. However in the LiveATC audio feed, the crew can't be heard contacting the Tower. Both the Tower controller and the Approach controller tried twice to contact the aircraft and also separately issued landing clearances to the aircraft twice.
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>Footnote: I am not blaming the crew, nor the operator, or anyone really. At the end of the day, pilots are products of their training departments/institutions. Mechanical machines, contraptions, and technology are all prone to malfunctions and errors. I am just stating the data that is available and what the data should look like. I am interesting to see what will be found on the black boxes when they get readout and analysed.
Espera que otro dice esto:
>Tagesschau.de (German news reel) reports, that DHL has said, that the crew had to make an emergency landing:
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>https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/europa/dhl-absturz-litauen-100.html
Todas esas especulaciones antes de que vieran que el avión rota sobre si mismo y se pone con las alas en vertical e impacta... eso es típico de entrada en pérdida.
Español, en Vilnius y en el sector de la distribución me viene el sospechoso habitual a la mente. Habrá que ver si ha seguido dando la brasa con sus clones, cada vez es más complicado porque el resto le copiaron su estilo.
@lowfour (post #110)
mapazo! eh?
esto de tener tanta info y encima gratis... qué tiempos
bueno, aquí podemos acceder, en otros países como los del eje de los amigos de cinta y tal, menudos truños de países
@lowfour (post #111)
voy a ver qué se cuentan por ahí, pero yo apuesto (así, un poco por instinto) a que los del tagesschau van bien encaminados y el aterrizaje no era normal ya de entrada
lo que no sabemos qué tenían roto para aterrizar tan de golpe y encima con pérdida de comunicación con torre o algo así me ha parecido entender...
igual tenían un dispositivo que les jodió la radio y tal... suena a sabotaje
mientras tanto... mirad
b-52 en finlandia
@elarquitecto (post #116) Menos en China que es una dictadura totalitaria como la Oceanía de 1984, en el resto de países donde los travestidos con barba y vestido de mujer siguen teniendo prohibido leer cuentos a los niños les da bastante igual lo que hagas en Internet mientras no sea extremadamente grave estilo hacer atentados terroristas.
Pareces una vieja que acaba de descubrir Internet ahora, yo llevo leyendo a gente de todo el mundo desde 1999, sé lo que opinan directamente y no a través de la prensa sionista como te pasa a ti.
o sea, tenemos que hace un par de meses ya explotó en leipzig un paquete desde lituania, y ahora se estrella un avión también de dhl que venía de leipzig, en lituania...
casualidad??
revienta en bodega, jode las comunicaciones y el control fly-by-wire o algo así, tienen que maniobrar a pedales y bastante hicieron con salvar a 3 de 4
@elarquitecto (post #119)
No hombre si lo contaron que eran varios los paquetes explosivos que habían intentado colar en aviones de DHL. Supongo que tienen un topo currando en DHL Leipzig o algo
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