FBI vs Trump, fight!!

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
Started 2022-08-09
119 posts
elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2022-08-27
#31

otro abogao que cae

https://twitter.com/SpiroAgnewGhost/status/1563544824870887426

se pensaban que la campañita para desprestigiar las elecciones y meter mierda a ver si le daban la vuelta a los resultados con marrullerías iba a salir gratis...

pues...

esperad que hay más

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2022-08-27
#32

os dejo aquí el hilazo sobre el robo de documentos:

https://twitter.com/tomiahonen/status/1563514729284321280

ojo que es tuiter y que la cuenta es "oficial" de un pavo que lo mismo tiene mucha imaginación (aunque técnicamente se basa en lo publicado), pero me da que la realidad le puede estar incluso superando

dice cosas como esta:

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That Trump had kept 184 classified documents is a crime. The penalty would be 184 x 5 years = 920 years of prison time JUST on taking these classified documents without authorization (and keeping them)

That is before we consider Top Secret matters, etc

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vamos, que el pavo no se puede ir con que se le mezclaron en un descuido los 184 documentos secretos

es más, lo mismo si hubiera devuelto las cajas sin los documentos sensibles (porque el pavo es un poco ordenado y los quita antes de devolver nada), lo mismo ni se habrían coscao de que faltan 184 documentos (o quién los tiene)

pero es que no es solo 184 archivos clasificados, es que en ellos había cosas muy "top"

And among the classified documents were 25 Top Secret documents. The classified materials from January included items about human intelligence (very vulnerable details about actual spies and informants helping United States in foreign countries) and about

AND the classified documents includes materials about signals intelligence, where USA leads the world, the spy satellite and various electronic intelligence gathering tech which is incredibly expensive, and info that CAPABILITY is closely guarded

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saca papeles de la carpetilla donde dicen "top secret" y se lo mete en la suya, que está chapada en oro, que le mola más 🤪

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resumen:

Do not focus on the parking ticket when there was a bank robbery

**in January USA recovered one half of one box of Government secrets from Trump**

**in August FBI found ELEVEN BOXES MORE of classified docs. Up to 44,000 pages more !**

Literally 25 TIMES WORSE

o sea, se coscan de que ha devuelto papeles clasificados (media caja), entre las 15 que le reclaman

el juez dice, ostiah!! mira a ver si en casa tiene más, que los ha sacado de las carpetillas y lo mismo...

pam!! 11 cajas más tenía el pavo

cómo os quedáis?

la guinda es que el fbi ni se olía la tostada (o no se lo creía o yoquesé), porque al parecer hay chivatos! (no uno ni dos, varios!!)

Now in this heavily redacted affidavit, we find out there are a 'significant number' of informants. I say that is more than 5, could be a dozen. All assisting the FBI in some way. And from the filings about releasing the original warrant, we found out that at least one of informants is assisting FBI on an UNRELATED crime committed by Trump that is not espionage or related to these documents. So someone has truly 'ratted out' Trump, full informant, helping FBI catch Trump on MORE CRIMES

ojocuidao que igual alguno de los "chivatos" es abogado del propio trump (y que se ha visto en un conflicto cojonudo entre el deber hacia su cliente y los secretos de estado... o sea, si calla ante un caso de seguridad nacional (poca broma con estas mierdas, mira bin laden y tal...), le cae la del pulpo por cómplice)

lo digo por este tuit

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y quien es cristina bobb?? la del canalillo, no el calvo (que es el kraken-giuliani) https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3595946-who-is-trump-attorney-christina-bobb-who-met-fbi-at-mar-a-lago/

bobb dijo que solo había 15 cajas y que estaba todo devuelto, que ni se molestaran en mirar...

pues...

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26 cajazas, casi la mitad era material clasificado

**Donald Trump PERSONALLY packed some of the boxes

His personal handwriting is on some of the documents

He (through his attorney) told he had no more documents when he had 3,700 more

He had removed secret documents from their folders

& was HIDING files**

a ver, que hasta aquí es la parte del "robo"

ahora queda la parte del "espionaje"

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o sea, es imposible que trump tenga 160 libros solo porque le gusta leer en el water de oro que tiene mientras caga

así que solo queda una posibilidad, que los haya robado para venderlos... o sea, que le puede caer la pena de muerte (que es lo que tiene ir contra el estado de los usa en estos términos)

otra cosa es que puedan probar que iba a vender nada o que haya ya vendido algo... aunque viendo a los chivatos, lo mismo ya saben algo que no está publicado aun



Jag
Jag
2022-08-27
#33

@elarquitecto (post #32)

Tupelasso es amigo íntimo de caraculo Vania, te acuerdas cuándo se filtró que desde la gran madre patria habían donado un montón de pasta para la campaña de Tupelasso naranja?. Lo de los top secret probablemente vaya por ahí.

A ver si va a tener que ver con que tito caraculo Vania se metiese en Ucrania así por las buenas y sin presuntamente calcular......polonizaran a Tupelasso????

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2022-08-28
#34

@Jag (post #33) y fue a ver al lidl best-koreano también

joder, la liga de los malvados mundiales o algo así o qué?? le faltó ir a irán o algo así

aunque los de biden ya han ido a venezuela, pero esto es otra movida (y putin tiene mucha culpa de ella, me temo)

de todos modos, creo que se está contando muy mal la historia (no sé si en usa se cuenta igual de mal)

al tipo le reclaman 15 cajas de documentos, porque son de Archivos, no de trump

cuando por fin los devuelve (un año y pico con ellos), se encuentran documentos clasificados entre esas cajas (como media caja) y saltan las alarmas

así que mandan al fbi a ver qué pasa (y resulta que el fbi encuentra "chivatos" porque claro, una cosa es que trump se quede con la tarjeta de navidad que le mandó putin, y otra que se quede con planos de submarinos atómicos o la lista de espías en rusia o algo así)

el fbi descubre que tiene más y pide una orden a un juez, que no puede negarse porque esto es "seguridad nacional", para entrar en ca-tupénaranja y recuperar lo que haya

y resulta que salen 16 cajas más de documentos, la mitad clasificados (top secret para los amigos), que obviamente no son "recuerdos" ni una ayudita para las noches de insomnio

vamos, que todo apunta a tráfico de documentos secretos, y la prensa callada... en serio??!

igual es todo por lo del secreto y seguridad nacional, pero me parece un escandalazo que el ex-presi, que dio un golpe de estado fallido, esté vendiendo documentos secretos

y aun quieren volverle hacer presi??!!

venganomejodas

usa tiene un problemón si normaliza esta situación


lowfour
lowfour
2022-08-28
#35

@elarquitecto (post #34)

El NYT le está dando mucha cobertura, es un escandalazo sideral. El que dude que el gordo naranjito estaba untado hasta las orejas por Rusia es que no se entera de nada. Y cuando digo "Untado" no es que le pasaran un sobre con billetes y le dijera "hunde USA", sino que su relación con Putin a cambio de favores (ciberputinas a su servicio) explica muchas de sus acciones.

Y @elarquitecto todavía dudas de que la retirada a toda hostia de Afghanistán no fue por el tema que venía con Rusia? Es que a mi me parece que está clarísimo.

lowfour
lowfour
2022-08-28
#36

A ver, si ej que tenéis que leer el Jamón York Times, es buenísimo. No tiene nada que ver.

lowfour
lowfour
2022-08-28
#37
Edited 2022-08-28

Vamos, que tienen que evaluar el grado de riesgo que tenían los "papelillos in importancia" en la casa del butanito. Seguro que aunque hayan papeles MUY jodidos dirán que no era para tanto, porque es un golpe brutal para la seguridad nacional.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/27/us/politics/trump-documents-security-assessment-affidavit.html



Intelligence Officials Will Assess Security Risks From Mar-a-Lago Documents


The director of national intelligence told lawmakers that her office would lead a review concerning the sensitive documents retrieved from former President Donald J. Trump’s Florida residence.



WASHINGTON — U.S. intelligence officials will conduct a review to assess the possible risks to national security from former President Donald J. Trump’s handling of classified documents after the F.B.I. retrieved boxes containing sensitive material from Mar-a-Lago, according to a letter to lawmakers.

In the letter, Avril D. Haines, the director of national intelligence, informed the top lawmakers on the House Intelligence and Oversight Committees that her office would lead an intelligence community assessment of the “potential risk to national security that would result from the disclosure” of documents Mr. Trump took with him to his private club and residence in Palm Beach, Fla.

In the letter, which was obtained by The New York Times, Ms. Haines said her office would work with the Justice Department to ensure that the assessment did not interfere with the department’s criminal investigation concerning the documents. The review will determine what intelligence sources or systems could be identified from the documents and be compromised if they fell into the wrong hands.

Ms. Haines’s letter, dated Friday, was reported earlier by Politico. It came after the leaders of the Intelligence and Oversight Committees asked her on Aug. 13 to conduct an “immediate review and damage assessment” in the wake of the F.B.I.’s search of Mar-a-Lago, during which federal agents recovered 11 sets of classified documents.

The Senate Intelligence Committee also asked for a damage assessment, according to the panel’s chairman, Senator Mark Warner, Democrat of Virginia, who said the request had been bipartisan.

On Friday, the Justice Department released a redacted version of the affidavit used to obtain the search warrant for Mar-a-Lago. That document included the revelation that Mr. Trump had retained highly classified material after leaving office, including documents related to the use of “clandestine human sources” in intelligence gathering.

Representatives Adam B. Schiff, Democrat of California and the chairman of the Intelligence Committee, and Carolyn B. Maloney, Democrat of New York and the chairwoman of the Oversight Committee, issued an approving statement in response to Ms. Haines’s letter.

“The D.O.J. affidavit, partially unsealed yesterday, affirms our grave concern that among the documents stored at Mar-a-Lago were those that could endanger human sources,” the lawmakers said in their statement.

Using the abbreviation for the intelligence community, they added, “It is critical that the I.C. move swiftly to assess and, if necessary, to mitigate the damage done — a process that should proceed in parallel with D.O.J.’s criminal investigation.”

Before the F.B.I.’s search of Mar-a-Lago on Aug. 8, the National Archives and the Justice Department tried at length to retrieve sensitive documents that Mr. Trump had kept after leaving the White House.

In January, the archives collected 15 boxes from Mar-a-Lago. The F.B.I. later reviewed their contents and found a total of 184 documents with classification markings, including 25 labeled “top secret,” according to the affidavit released on Friday.

Jag
Jag
2022-08-28
#38

@elarquitecto (post #34)

Yo creo que sí se presenta le vuelven a votar..... Ya no confío en la gente.

Que un ex presi tenga en casa documentación para uso particular que no es suya, de esa clasificación, es para que purguen a toda la CIA, el FBI y la NSA porque han saltado todos los protocolos. Y además porque huele a quinta columna pro (como muy bien has definido) eje del mal dentro de casa.

Ojalá pase lo que dices y recapaciten los de la derecha a la derecha de allí, y lo aparten permanentemente. Volver a ser fiables como país y dar apariencia al menos de ser serios y tenerlo todo controlado debiera ser al menos un must para un gobierno de esa entidad. Esperemos que pase.

lowfour
lowfour
2022-08-28
#39
Edited 2022-08-28

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/26/us/politics/obstruction-trump-search-documents.html



Possibility of Obstruction Looms Over Trump After Thwarted Efforts to Recover Documents


Unredacted portions of the affidavit underlying the Mar-a-Lago search warrant point to a crime that has been overshadowed amid disputes over classified information.



WASHINGTON — When the Justice Department proposed redactions to the affidavit underlying the warrant used to search former President Donald J. Trump’s residence, prosecutors made clear that they feared the former president and his allies might take any opportunity to intimidate witnesses or otherwise illegally obstruct their investigation.

“T**he government has well-founded concerns that steps may be taken to frustrate or otherwise interfere with this investigation if facts in the affidavit were prematurely disclosed,**” prosecutors said in the brief.

The 38-page affidavit, released on Friday, asserted that there was “probable cause to believe that evidence of obstruction will be found at” Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago compound, indicating that prosecutors had evidence suggesting efforts to impede the recovery of government documents.

Since the release of the search warrant, which listed three criminal laws as the foundation of the investigation, one — the Espionage Act — has received the most attention. Discussion has largely focused on the spectacle of the F.B.I. finding documents marked as highly classified and Mr. Trump’s questionable claims that he had declassified everything held at his residence.

But **by some measures, the crime of obstruction is as, or even more, serious a threat to Mr. Trump or his close associates.** The version investigators are using, known as Section 1519, is part of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, a broad set of reforms enacted in 2002 after financial scandals at companies like Enron, Arthur Andersen and WorldCom.

The heavily redacted affidavit provides new details of the government’s efforts to retrieve and secure the material in Mr. Trump’s possession, highlighting how prosecutors may be pursuing a theory that the former president, his aides or both might have illegally obstructed an effort of well over a year to recover sensitive documents that do not belong to him.

**To convict someone of obstruction, prosecutors need to prove two things: that a defendant knowingly concealed or destroyed documents, and that he did so to impede the official work of any federal agency or department. Section 1519’s maximum penalty is 20 years in prison, which is twice as long as the penalty under the Espionage Act.**

Julie O’Sullivan, a Georgetown University law professor who specializes in white-collar crime, said the emerging timeline of the government’s repeatedly stymied attempts to retrieve all the documents, coupled with claims by Mr. Trump that he did nothing wrong because he had declassified all the documents in his possession, presented significant legal peril for him.

“He is making a mistake in believing that it matters whether it’s top secret or not,” she said. “He is essentially conceding that he knew he had them.” If so, she added, then not giving them back was “obstructing the return of these documents.”

**The cloud of potential obstruction carries echoes of the Russia investigation led by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. That inquiry ended up being as much about how Mr. Trump had sought to impede his work as it was about scrutinizing Russia’s efforts to manipulate the 2016 election and the nature of myriad Russian links to people associated with Mr. Trump’s campaign.**

In a coincidence, the Justice Department on Wednesday revealed a 2019 internal document commissioned by William P. Barr, then the attorney general, that laid out purported justifications for his pronouncement that Mr. Trump was cleared of obstruction suspicions, despite the episodes recounted in the Mueller report. This time, however, the Justice Department is not overseen by a Trump loyalist.

Because of the heavy redactions in the newly released affidavit, it remains unclear whether there is any other investigation or official agency effort that law enforcement officials think Mr. Trump or people in his circle might have obstructed in refusing to turn over the government documents. But at a minimum, it is clear that the government’s efforts to retrieve the records have repeatedly been impeded.

The timeline laid out in the redacted affidavit, which fills in several gaps in the public understanding, traces back to May 6, 2021. On that day, as The New York Times reported this week, the general counsel for the National Archives first reached out to Mr. Trump’s designated representatives to the agency and asked for the return of about two dozen boxes of missing documents.

But the effort was stonewalled for months. **The affidavit said the agency “continued to make requests” for about seven months. Finally, in late December 2021, Mr. Trump’s camp told the agency that it could retrieve about 12 boxes of documents at Mar-a-Lago.**

In January 2022, the National Archives picked up what turned out to be 15 such boxes. **After discovering that haphazardly mixed in were 184 documents marked as classified — including what the affidavit described as extremely restricted ones containing information that could reveal confidential human intelligence sources and surveillance technology abilities —** the agency made a criminal referral to the Justice Department on Feb. 9.

In a coincidence, the Justice Department on Wednesday revealed a 2019 internal document commissioned by William P. Barr, then the attorney general, that laid out purported justifications for his pronouncement that Mr. Trump was cleared of obstruction suspicions, despite the episodes recounted in the Mueller report. This time, however, the Justice Department is not overseen by a Trump loyalist.

Because of the heavy redactions in the newly released affidavit, it remains unclear whether there is any other investigation or official agency effort that law enforcement officials think Mr. Trump or people in his circle might have obstructed in refusing to turn over the government documents. But at a minimum, it is clear that the government’s efforts to retrieve the records have repeatedly been impeded.

The timeline laid out in the redacted affidavit, which fills in several gaps in the public understanding, traces back to May 6, 2021. On that day, as The New York Times reported this week, the general counsel for the National Archives first reached out to Mr. Trump’s designated representatives to the agency and asked for the return of about two dozen boxes of missing documents.

But the effort was stonewalled for months. The affidavit said the agency “continued to make requests” for about seven months. Finally, in late December 2021, Mr. Trump’s camp told the agency that it could retrieve about 12 boxes of documents at Mar-a-Lago.

In January 2022, the National Archives picked up what turned out to be 15 such boxes. After discovering that haphazardly mixed in were 184 documents marked as classified — including what the affidavit described as extremely restricted ones containing information that could reveal confidential human intelligence sources and surveillance technology abilities — the agency made a criminal referral to the Justice Department on Feb. 9.

But investigators came to believe that even more records remained at Mar-a-Lago. The details in the affidavit are redacted, but it disclosed that multiple witnesses have been cooperating with the F.B.I. In a separate filing, the department urged a judge not to disclose anything that might reveal their identities, lest they be harassed and intimidated.

Investigators have also sought information by other means. After Mr. Bratt and other officials visited Mar-a-Lago, prosecutors subpoenaed the Trump Organization for a copy of Mar-a-Lago’s surveillance tapes. The company complied, turning over the tapes to the government. The Justice Department subsequently asked for more tapes.

The department decided to obtain a search warrant to go into Mar-a-Lago and seize any remaining government documents. But in doing so, officials made an important legal and strategic decision.

Even though the Justice Department thought of itself as “conducting a criminal investigation concerning the improper removal and storage of classified information in unauthorized spaces, as well as the unlawful concealment or removal of government records,” as the affidavit stated, officials effectively sidestepped the issue of whether the documents were classified.

Instead, as a basis for the search warrant, they cited three criminal laws for which prosecutors do not need to prove that a mishandled document was classified. The harshest was the obstruction statute.

The search was successful in finding and retrieving numerous remaining government documents, some of which were marked as highly classified, according to the F.B.I.’s inventory. The raid thus apparently brought an end to long-impeded official efforts by two agencies to retrieve the records — some containing sensitive national security information, some not.

If the Justice Department is considering charging Mr. Trump with obstruction, there is one missing piece of information in the public understanding of the events: whether there is proof that he personally knew the documents were at Mar-a-Lago and chose not to return them all, including after the subpoena.

News accounts attributed to people familiar with the matter have said he did know he had the documents and discussed whether he ought to return them with various advisers, including at one point declaring, “They’re mine.” But because the affidavit is redacted, it is not clear what court-admissible evidence investigators have gathered in this area.

Against that backdrop, Ms. O’Sullivan noted that most of the interactions between the government and Mr. Trump’s camp went through his lawyers. She said if Mr. Trump were charged with obstruction, his only defense would be to say he did not know what was still at Mar-a-Lago and that his lawyers and aides handling the documents matter had messed up or misled him.

“He would probably look to throw his lawyers under the bus and deny that he had the requisite knowledge that he was concealing them with the intent to obstruct the return of the documents,” she said. “That is what we don’t know yet because of the affidavit redactions — whether the Department of Justice has proof that he did know that they were still concealing documents on an ongoing basis.”

elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2022-08-28
#40

@lowfour (post #36)

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/26/us/politics/trump-documents-search-timeline.html

la cronologría

**Inside the 20-Month Fight to Get Trump to Return Presidential Material**

The government tried repeatedly for more than a year and a half to get the former president to give back documents from his time in office. Finally, it resorted to a search of his property.

Late 2020

**Talks begin between the National Archives and Trump.**

(ojo, que trump estuvo planificando lo del asalto al capitolio y tal por esas fechas, a ver si era para evitarse todo esto...)

Jan. 18, 2021

**The move to Mar-a-Lago begins.**

Two days before Mr. Trump is to leave office, at least two moving trucks are spotted at Mar-a-Lago, his club and residence in Palm Beach, Fla.

Mr. Trump leaves the White House for Mar-a-Lago on Jan. 20. Photographs show boxes of material leaving with him, although those boxes are only a portion of what ultimately made it there.

(ojocuidao, que fue cuando ya era seguro que biden era presi, lo del capitolio falló y trump tuvo que pirarse... se llevó consigo dos camiones... la pregunta es, cuántas cajas tenían??

May 6, 2021

**The archives alerts Trump’s team to missing material.**

se coscan de que "faltan" cosas... los de Archivos querían las cartas del lidl de best-korea y tal...

les dan largas

May 18, 2021

**Trump offers to return letters from Kim Jong-un.**

típica maniobra de joputa-timador, no, si yo ya las mandé, pregunte en correos...

no aparecen

Summer 2021

**Trump displays the Kim letters.**

pues que van a casa tupénaranja y éste les enseña las cartas, y luego la puerta

Late 2021

**Archives officials warn of consequences.**

los de archivos dan un toquecito, mira que retener documentos es delito, pero si encontramos material clasificado la cosa va a ser peor...

porloquesea, los adobados de trump reconocen que tienen 12 cajas (sí, han leído bien, 12), o sea, se han hecho caquita encima

Jan. 18, 2022

**The archives recovers sensitive material from Mar-a-Lago.**

tanta caquita se han hecho que mandan 15 cajas

Officials from the archives retrieve 15 boxes containing presidential records and other sensitive material, along with various news clippings and other miscellanea. According to the Justice Department, the documents “appear to contain national defense information,” sometimes called N.D.I., which is protected by the Espionage Act.

aquí es cuando llaman al fbi

porque si se han confundido con unas cajas, lo mismo se han "confundido" con más...

Jan. 31, 2022

**The archives publicly criticizes Trump’s destruction of documents.**

qué les habrá llegao a los de archivos para que anden chinaos y digan que... "faltan cosas" (pero ya la cosa está en manos del fbi)

Feb. 9, 2022

**The archives refers the matter to the Justice Department.**

como hay "top secrets" y todo descontrolado, pues qué van a hacer? llamar a los de las togas

Spring 2022

**Investigations into the missing material ramp up.**

no tienen claro muy bien lo que falta, pero al fbi ya no lo para ni perry

mr put.. .digo mr trump dice que ya lo entregó todo

April 29, 2022

**A review raises national security concerns.**

ahora son los de la toga los que aprietan las clavijas a los adobados de trump, algunos se rajan y se despiden, todos le dicen a trump que devuelva todo (o sea, que hay más... eh?) y me da que los informantes ya estaban aquí cantando coplas

May 11, 2022

**A grand jury issues a subpoena to Trump.**

lo de que trump pintarrajee documentos "top secret" no, eh?? no

citao y pintan bastos

May 25, 2022

**Trump defends his handling of documents.**

M. Evan Corcoran, a lawyer for Mr. Trump, sends the Justice Department a letter asking that the department consider a few “principles,” including the claim that Mr. Trump had the absolute authority to declassify the documents.

supongo que trump dice (via adobao) que el se queda lo que le da la gana, que para eso puede desclasificar nosequé

(yo esto no lo pillo mucho, pero bueno... que no devuelve na, que es suyo todo)

June 3, 2022

**The Justice Department visits Mar-a-Lago.**

Jay I. Bratt, the Justice Department’s chief of counterintelligence, visits Mar-a-Lago accompanied by F.B.I. agents.

yo me haría caquita, pero mucha solo de ver el cargo del tal jay

pues na, que se dan una vuelta por la mansión y no ven nada (supongo que notarían algunos bultos bajo las alfombras, sospechosos)

la tal cristina les firma un "recibí" diciendo que todo ha sido entregao (hasta donde ella sabe... que parece tonta, pero... bueno, igual la entrullan y todo)

June 8, 2022

**The Justice Department requests that Trump’s storage room be preserved.**

resulta que jay no había ido a ver si tenía las cajas, si no a ver si tenía pestillos en los armarios!!

“As I previously indicated to you, Mar-a-Lago does not include a secure location authorized for the storage of classified information,” the documents “have not been handled in an appropriate manner or stored in an appropriate location.”

(los adobaos dicen que pondrán un candao a los armaritos, que muchas gracias)

June 2022

**The F.B.I. interviews Trump’s staff.**

hora de los soplones o chivatos o loquesea que esté soltando la info

June 22, 2022

**Mar-a-Lago surveillance footage is subpoenaed.**

los pajaritos han cantado y el fbi y la toga (el jay, que es como colombo, parece tonto pero te la lía... te va cortando la hierba debajo los pies y ni te enteras hasta que te ha pillao), pillan las cintas y ven a al peña moviendo cajas del sótano (ojocuidao, son grabaciones de 2 meses atrás, no de hace un año... o sea, estaban escamoteando las cajas a los jay y demás que pasaron por ahí)

Aug. 5, 2022

**The warrant to search Mar-a-Lago is approved.**

qué más pistas quieres, juez?? tenemos soplones, tenemos grabaciones, tenemos parte del material devuelto... coño, firma aquí

Aug. 8, 2022

**The F.B.I. searches Mar-a-Lago.**

yo creo que dejaron pasar un par de días a ver si movían más cajas y pillarles con el carrito, cómo lo veis??

The search warrant is executed by the F.B.I. Eleven sets of classified material, comprising scores of pages, are recovered from the basement storage area, a container on the floor of a closet in Mr. Trump’s office, a former dressing room in the bridal suite above the enormous ballroom.

y esto es todo, por ahora



lowfour
lowfour
2022-08-28
#41

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elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2022-08-28
#42
Edited 2022-08-28

@lowfour (post #41)

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The Trump Attorney Hall Of Fame

Roy Cohn 1

Michael Cohen 1,3,4

Rudy Giuliani 2,3,5

John Eastman 2,3,5

Sidney Powell, 2,3

Ken Klukowski 3

Jeff Clark 3,5,6

Christina Bobb 7

1 disbarred

2 disbarment ongoing

3 FBI raid

4 convicted

5 begged for pardon

6 lost his pants

7 lied to FBI

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elarquitecto
elarquitecto
2022-08-28
#43

por cierto, cotilleando al tal tomi, he encontrado este otro hilo no menos demoledor (aunque, para mí, tomi igual tiene mucha imaginación, o su estilo me chirria un poco, no sé... pero lo mismo hasta se queda corto)

https://twitter.com/tomiahonen/status/1559595941866471424

en ese hilo se habla de este otro

https://twitter.com/tomiahonen/status/1418215040063180806

que explicaría muchas cosas, empezando por el "modus operandi" o pillada por los huevos:

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te enchufan una prostituta para chantajearte y luego te sobornan

doble gancho, y espiral mortal hacia la corrupción, porque te tienen por los huevos

según tomi, putin captó a trump antes de ser candidato, y luego captó a todo (o casi todo, o al menos una mayoría respetable) el partido republicano... tomi no tiene pruebas, pero tampoco dudas

en realidad, hay toda una serie de indicios, algunos como lo de los servidores de las elecciones de 2016, que ganó trump... y bueno, que se sabe que rusia financia cositas a los republicanos y tal

al parecer, había candidatos anti-trump que misteriosamente se han pasado al trumpismo... siempre tras un viajecito a rusia o algo así...

pero el propio trump está pillao por los huevos, por ejemplo:

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a ver, que lo de villarejo es de aficionados comparado con lo que cuenta tomi, eh??

es nivel dios

porque no solo afecta a trump y sus colaboradores más cercanos (abogados o asistentes), sino a todo el partido republicano (vía bannon, por cierto)

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dicho de otro modo (y según tomi, pero que tiene pinta de que se queda hasta corto), si eres alguien en el trumpismo, es que estás "pillado por los huevos", o sea, eres un corrupto de campeonato (vía putas + sobornos, o loquesea + sobornos)

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por eso están callados ante trump, por eso hay tan poquitos en el partido republicano que se oponen a trump (si lo hacen, la mafia actúa)

So. Trump extortion files will likely not include every Registered Republican (but Bannon almost definitely has that). Trump has some info on all vulnerable GOP elected politicians including newly voted members of 2018, 2020

pero hay más, porque no eres nadie solo con unos mafiosos, necesitas voceros y bustos parlantes y tal...

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todos te defenderán a muerte, aunque haya alguno que sea "tonto útil", parece ser que la mayoría estarían "pillados por los huevos" (putis+soborno... si ejque es tan sencillo corromper...)

hasta aquí todo bien??

pues según tomi, el fbi ha recuperado 11 cajas de material clasificado y tal... pero salieron 23 de la mansión (la excusita era que como el tipo sacaba los documentos de las carpetas y estaba todo mezclado, pillaron todo lo que hubiera cerca de las carpetillas, porsiaca... que no mola abrir un "top secret" y encontrarte el "hola" dentro porque trump es así de ordenao)

o sea, las otras cajas lo mismo es material sensible de los "pillados por los huevos"

o peor, que sea la relación putin-trump que quería tapar (y que, además, enlaza con la liada del brexit, también alimentada con fondos rusos... pero esto es otra historia ya)



lowfour
lowfour
2022-08-28
#44
Edited 2022-08-28

Yo creo que esto está clarísimo. El Tomi es un poco sobrado por lo que parece... pero para mi esto es algo que si no se ha destapado antes es porque se puede liar una guerra civil en USA o algo peor. Se desmorona toda la creencia en "el sistema" y en sus "promesas". Si resulta que la figura del Make American Great Again estaba a sueldo o pillao o lo que sea por Vlad The Garden Gnome pues acabemos. Pero es que todo apunta a eso.

Estamos viendo unas movidas muy grandes a nivel planetario y cuya erupción más burda es la guerra en Ucrania. Pero estamos en un juego de parchis 4D donde confluye energía, cambio climático, cambio de modelo PPCCiano, sincronización peak de todas las burbujas inmo en todos los mercados, los métodos de Surkov, el milenarismo populista trumpiano y hasta el puto COVIC.

Sin ser un tarado de esos que ve conexiones por todos lados... pero yo aquí veo muchas conexiones espacio temporales y creo que el tema trump, toma del capitolio es una de las más grandes. Trump siempre ha sido fan de Putin (de puertas para afuera) y Putin le ha pagado las ciberputes, Y de eso pasamos a casi un enfrentamiento frontal entre Rusia y USA. Solo faltan que USA mande cazas y soldados, porque han puesto toda la carne en el asador.

Menudo cambio no? Qué pasa si ganan los republicans de nuevo o le hace un impeachment al carcamal por meter mano a las tías cuando se toma fotos? Que de repente volvemos a que Putin es estupendo?

Yo creo que esto de que se investigue a Trump va más hacia desactivar ese peligro existencial del sistema gUSAno representado por el nihilismo demagógico Surkoviano probablemente financiado por Rusia con intereses disruptivos.

Veremos tirar de la manta de



  • - Podemos

  • - Catanazis

  • - Vox

  • - Fascistas italianos

  • - Antieuropeos varios?


  • Espérate que no haya un "The Putin Leaks" que reviente el sistema.



    lowfour
    lowfour
    2022-08-28
    #45

    Mira:

    https://ecfr.eu/article/commentary_putins_friends_in_europe7153/



    Putin’s friends in Europe


    The upsurge of populism in Europe has provided Russia with an ample supply of sympathetic political parties across the continent.



    The upsurge of populism in Europe has provided Russia with an ample supply of sympathetic political parties across the continent. These parties – mostly from the far right but also from the far left – are pursuing policies and taking positions that advance Russia’s agenda in Europe. They tend to be anti-establishment parties ― some on the extreme fringes of the political spectrum ― that challenge the mainstream liberal order in Europe. Many of these parties are working actively to undo the European project. They are generally suspicious of the United States and want to reduce its influence in Europe.

    **In June ECFR carried out the first comprehensive [survey of ‘insurgent’ parties in Europe](https://ecfr.eu/publications/summary/the_world_according_to_europes_insurgent_parties7055). It found that, despite their differences, a majority of them are positively inclined towards Putin’s Russia and pursue policies that promote Russia’s interests in Europe.**

    While Russia is not responsible for the emergence of these pro-Russian parties, it has embraced them, especially as relations between the West and Russia have deteriorated. The parties are useful for Moscow in that they help legitimise the Kremlin’s policies and amplify Russian disinformation. At times they can also shift Europe’s domestic debates in Russia’s favour. But it is their politics of disruption – underpinned by their scepticism towards the European Union – that does most to destabilise European politics.

    It would be a mistake to portray these parties as Russian stooges. The parties’ pro-Russian policies are underpinned by conviction and an affinity with ideological tenets of Putin’s Russia. But while the parties are not under Moscow’s control, the extent to which Russia directly supports them has become an increasingly important question, as tensions rise between Russia and the West. Russian influencing efforts in the West have come under particular scrutiny since the leak of thousands of Democratic National Committee emails in July was attributed to Russian meddling in US politics.



    Alignment with Russia


    **To what extent do the insurgent parties align with Russia? A majority of the 45 insurgent parties identified by ECFR were favourably inclined towards Russia and sympathised with Russian positions. The most pro-Russian of these parties (of a significant size) on the far right are: the AfD, FPÖ, Greece’s Golden Dawn, Hungary’s Jobbik, France’s Front National, Italy’s Northern League, the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP), and Belgium’s Vlaams Belang (VB). On the far left, the most pro-Russian parties are Cyprus’s AKEL, Germany’s Die Linke, the Czech Republic’s KSCM, Podemos in Spain, and Syriza. The Italian Five Star Movement and the Human Shield Party in Croatia also belong to the pro-Russian camp.**

    **Voting patterns in the European Parliament shows that on issues such as Ukraine, the human rights situation in Russia, and association agreements with Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova, the Dutch PVV leads the pack in pro-Russian votes. UKIP, the Sweden Democrats, Italy’s Northern League, and France’s Front National come in a shared second place. Insurgent parties from the far left – Spain’s Podemos, Greece’s Syriza, and Germany’s Die Linke – are not far behind.**

    **All of these parties, with the exception of Syriza and PVV, oppose EU sanctions on Russia and none believe that the Deep and Comprehensive Free Trade Area (DCFTA) with Ukraine should be implemented in full. All the parties are Eurosceptic to varying degrees.**

    The pro-Russian stance of these parties derives largely from conviction and from an ideological affinity with Putin’s Russia. On the far right, many are attracted to Russia’s socially conservative values, its defence of national sovereignty, and its rejection of liberal internationalism and interventionism. On the left, many of the insurgents are attracted by Russia’s antipathy towards globalisation and its challenge to the US-dominated international capitalist order, as well as a nostalgic link to the Soviet Union. Both fringes tend to see Russia as a counter to the United States.

    Friends with benefits

    These parties have proven useful to Moscow in various ways. They have provided convenient sources of legitimisation domestically – and to some extent internationally – on issues such as Crimea. The Kremlin is able to point to them as “evidence” of Russia not being isolated and of there being supportive voices in Europe. This was seen during the referendum in Crimea in March 2014. While the OCSE did not send observers to Crimea, a group of European politicians from far right parties, including from the FPÖ, VB, FN, Jobbik, and Northern League, went there as observers. This was presented by Moscow as international legitimisation of the referendum.

    They have also proven capable of shifting the centre of political discourse in Russia’s favour. In France, for example, former president and presidential hopeful, Nicolas Sarkozy, who belongs to the political mainstream has taken an increasingly sympathetic line towards Russia as presidential elections in 2017 approach. He has called for the lifting of sanctions against Russia and argued that Crimea has a right to become part of Russia. This line is part of his election strategy to adopt positions from the National Front in order to co-opt their votes.

    But it is not just in matters of policy that these parties’ sympathies with the Kremlin are revealed. In them Moscow has also found convenient and willing conveyors of its anti-Western, anti-globalisation narratives. Several of the far right leaders, such as Nigel Farage, Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen, are frequent guests on Russia Today (RT) and Sputnik, with Farage reportedly having been offered his own show on RT.

    The “Operation Liza” case in Germany, where a false Russian story of a 13-year-old Russian-German girl having been raped by immigrants was picked up and spread by members of the far right AfD and Die Linke, which has close ties to Germans of Russian descent, was a prime example of the role these parties play in amplifying Russian disinformation.

    Finally, the anti-EU and anti-NATO strand of insurgent parties benefits Russia by weakening Western consensus and institutions. The Dutch referendum on the EU’s association agreement with Ukraine in April 2016 was an example of how insurgents in the minority were able to obstruct EU policy to Russia’s benefit. But this was most clearly seen in UKIP’s leading role in Britain’s decision to leave the European Union, with several Eurosceptic parties in Europe now following in UKIP’s footsteps and pushing for their own referendums on EU membership. Several parties, including AKEL, Die Linke, FPÖ, Golden Dawn, KSCM, and Jobbik are also opposed to the NATO alliance.

    Russian support and the populist upsurge

    But while it is clear that Moscow benefits from the pro-Russian stance of populist parties in Europe and in some cases uses them for propaganda purposes, it is less clear to what extent there is collusion. The notion that Russia might be funding agents of influence by providing financing to sympathetic parties in Europe has become more salient as relations between Russia and the West have deteriorated.

    The most well-publicised case of a European political party receiving funding from Russia is the loan to Front National, which has aligned itself with Russia on a range of issues. It has recognised Russia’s annexation of Crimea and event sent observers to the Crimean referendum, providing international legitimisation for the Kremlin.

    Leaked SMS exchanges indicate that the Front National’s stance on Crimea was the subject of correspondence between Russian officials, who agreed that the party should be “thanked” somehow for recognising the results of the referendum in Crimea. While Front National has denied that there was any quid pro quo, eight months later the party received a loan of €9.46 million from the First Czech Russian National Bank ― a financial institution with links to the Kremlin. Marine Le Pen has publicly acknowledged the loan – equivalent to the Front National’s total revenue for 2013 – citing the party’s inability to secure financing from European sources.

    The founder of Front National, Jean-Marie Le Pen, has also received a €2.5 million loan through his company Cotelec, from a Cyprus-based company that is owned by a former KGB agent who was expelled from Britain in 1985 on charges of spying.

    The loans to Front National seem to be a rare case of acknowledged Russian financing of a party. But does it amount to collusion? Not necessarily since Front National would probably have taken pro-Russian positions in any case. But the money does act as an enabler.

    There is circumstantial evidence and rumours of covert support for other radical parties in Europe, but little solid evidence exists in the public domain. The lack of information may not be surprising since this sort of activity typically belongs to the opaque world of intelligence services.

    But even if one assumes that Russia does not provide financial support to any other party, the way Moscow uses them to legitimise its own narrative and spread disinformation is in itself a cause for concern. They become ― wittingly or unwittingly ― part of an increasingly assertive and hostile Russian foreign policy towards the West.

    So what should Europe do?

    To begin with, European leaders should recognise that dealing with domestic populism is the greater challenge. Today, anti-establishment politics are a fact throughout Europe. And the political tides are still moving in their direction; several more may find themselves empowered after elections in Germany, France, Netherlands, and possibly Italy, in 2017.

    But while Russia is not behind the growth of populism but it is certainly benefiting from it. Insurgent parties have a right to take positions that align with those of Russia, within the limits of democratic politics. But covert Russian actions to support these parties and to spread disinformation undermine the democratic basis of European societies.

    European law enforcement agencies should prioritise looking into Russian covert support for populist parties and taking steps to counter such support. European governments should consider publishing intelligence on this in the public domain. Voters have a right to be informed about whom they are voting for.

    European governments should introduce stricter regulation of political party financing, notably when that financing is from foreign sources, and increased transparency requirements in relation to funding. A stricter implementation of national corruption and money laundering legislation would also go some way to countering illegal money transfers.

    elarquitecto
    elarquitecto
    2022-08-29
    #48

    @lowfour (post #45)

    como dices, esto es un juego 4D donde lo mismo hasta el más tonto es un espía ruso

    pero no mezclemos churras con merinas (o sea, los que están a sueldo de rusia, con los tontos útiles o algo así)

    cualquiera que haya orbitado (o militado directamente) a la antigua iu, y ya ni te cuento el pce, sabe que eran muy pro-rusos ya antes de putin

    en algunos casos, lo que pasaba era que se alineaba el anti-imperialismo yanki con alguna respuesta rusa o algo así, por ejemplo con la guerra del golfo (espcialmente la segunda)

    lo del "no a la guerra" de 2003 no fue todo patrocinado por putin, aunque muchos de sus protas puede que hoy esté a sueldo

    lo mismo con el anti-europeísmo, ya existía pre-putin, pero era parte de una anti-globalización entendida como una lucha por la extensión del capitalismo neoliberal, no tanto un anti-ue porque el volkstum mola y hay que preservarlo (esto ya sería anti-globalismo, y este sí que viene financiado por rusia, como vimos con los lazis)

    así que tenemos una masa de gente dispuesta a comprar "ideítas" (no las de ppcc, sino las anti-globalistas y anti-nwo y tal) por su propia "cultura" política local

    o sea, se están alimentando las nociones patria, volkstum, raza, religión y género, porque es donde puedes polarizar más y confrontar más y mejor

    como vimos en el hilo del populismo, confrontar es lo que busca el populismo para medrar (por ejemplo, los lazis siempre estaban con la cantinela de madrit-ens-roba, y todo es españa vs cataluña y tal), incluso a costa de las vacunas si hace falta (curisoamente, en la catoliquísima españa no cuajó esto, y vox se la tuvo que envainar, pero yo veo en las teles de los curas que siguen dando la turra contra las vacunas, todas, así en general)

    el pisito™ forma parte del capitalismo-popular, o sea, es una suerte de volkstum, solo que los rusos no están alimentando esa bicha, ya nos encargamos nosotros

    aunque quien sabe, lo mismo resulta que es como schroeder y gazprom y tal, y los fondos buitres usureros tienen fondos rusos operando, pero me extraña que blackrock sea parte de eso

    tampoco veo a ayuso pro-rusa, pero claro, sus métodos lo son

    por eso estamos todos tan despistados y en plan 4D

    que rusia se haya comprado al partido republicano vía banon, no significa que se haya comprado a todos los partidos republicanos en occidente, aunque pasta tenga para ello

    algunos habrá que sí, otros son imitadores, pero sus fondos provienen de fuentes no-rusas

    pero a estas alturas, lo mismo da un poco igual, porque joden las bases democráticas

    elarquitecto
    elarquitecto
    2022-08-29
    #49
    Edited 2022-08-29

    @lowfour (post #44)

    como comentaba antes, igual el dinero ruso no es tan determinante, no es que trump esté a sueldo de putin

    los republicanos mismos ya se habrían puesto en esa situación de inter-dependencia a través de sobornos y putis sin necesidad de que se lo mandara putin, pero claro, trump venía ya "putineado", muy casual no es

    parece claro que el partido republicano está lleno de "maga" que están ahí por su "mafiosidad", o sea, por tener más muertos en los armarios que nadie y ser controlables incluso para movidas tan tochas como asaltar un capitolio

    nadie soporta a ted cruz, pero como es un ayuso/cifuentes y pueden sacarle cremitas y tal, mientras tenga tirón electoral, ahí se queda

    no olvidemos que trump gobernó de 2016 a 2020, y no para desmontar cualquier burbuja, especialmente la inmo

    así que no es de extrañar que esté petando todo a la vez

    hasta las cryptos florecieron y todo

    viste el evento de este finde? los asistentes casi todos trumpistas (aunque más en su vertiente de estafador que de pro-ruso) deseando hacerse ricos sin pegar palo al agua

    esta ha sido la "promesa", riquezas a bajo esfuerzo

    y cómo es que no eres rico a tus 30 años, pepe?? eso es que no tienes piso™ (pisitofilia) eso es que tu mujer es una feminazi™ (misoginia) eso es que los inmis te están jodiendo (racismo) eso es que los rojos/fachis sobran (populismo)



    elarquitecto
    elarquitecto
    2022-08-31
    #50

    pues parece ser que hay más!!

    más documentos sin entregar!!

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/31/trump-documents-removed-storage-room/

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    que una cosa es ser desordenado y otra el berenjenal que se encontraron en ca-pelonaranja

    Former president Donald Trump and his advisers repeatedly failed to turn over highly classified government documents even after receiving a subpoena and pledging a “diligent search” had been conducted, leading to an FBI raid of his Florida home that **found more than 100 additional classified items, according to a blistering court filing by federal prosecutors late Tuesday.**

    The filing traces the extraordinary saga of government officials’ repeated efforts to recover sensitive national security papers from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and club, centered on a storage room where prosecutors came to suspect that “**government records were likely concealed and removed … and that efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government’s investigation.”**

    The agents also came to doubt claims by Trump’s team that the storage room was the only place where such documents might be found.

    (se les olvidó mirar en el water o qué??)

    When agents conducted their court-ordered search on Aug. 8, **they found material so sensitive that “even the FBI counterintelligence personnel and DOJ attorneys conducting the review required additional clearances before they were permitted to review certain documents,”** the filing says.

    (qué cojones tenía el pavo que ni los investigadores podían mirar de lo secreto que eran los documentos) 😱

    Among the most incriminating details in the government filing is a photograph, showing a number of files labeled “Top Secret” with bright red or yellow cover sheets, spread out over a carpet. Those files were found inside a container in Trump’s office, according to the court filing. A close examination of one of the cover sheets in the photo shows a marking for “HCS,” a government acronym for systems used to protect intelligence gathered from secret human sources.

    The 36-page filing also reveals, for the first time, the text of a written assurance given to the Justice Department by Trump’s “custodian of records” **on June 3. It says Trump’s team had done a thorough search for any classified material in response to a subpoena and had turned over any relevant documents.**

    Trump and his representatives gave the Justice Department 38 classified documents that day, the filing says, in addition to 184 others that were discovered in boxes sent to the National Archives earlier in the year.

    The filing says **Trump’s lawyer told Justice Department officials that all White House records that remained at Mar-a-Lago nearly 17 months after Trump left office were contained in the storage room, and that all boxes in the room had been searched.**

    (o sea, el 3 de junio, los adobados de trump (bueno, y trump) dijeron que eso era todo... peeeero, no contaban con la spanish inquisition!)

    **Yet when FBI agents raided the Trump property in August, they found more than 100 additional classified papers, which, prosecutors wrote, “calls into serious question the representations made in the June 3 certification and casts doubt on the extent of cooperation in this matter.”**

    (no se les escapa una a los del fbi, eh?? no estaban cooperando como decían... linces son!)

    The filing offers the most detailed, blow-by-blow account to date of the interactions between Trump’s team and government officials, who over the course of many months became increasingly desperate to find and contain all of the classified material stashed at Mar-a-Lago.

    In parts of the filing, using only their job descriptions, **prosecutors paint Trump’s lawyer, Evan Corcoran, and custodian of records, Christina Bobb, as so uncooperative as to lead agents to suspect the Trump team might be obstructing the investigation.**

    (esto es un delito muy grave, porque se trata de documentos clasificados, bueh... qué forma de joderse la vida, no lo entiendo)

    The filing, for instance, says that **when FBI agents and Jay Bratt**, the chief of the counterintelligence and export control section at the Justice Department, met with Trump’s two representatives in early June, “**the former President’s counsel explicitly prohibited government personnel from opening or looking inside any of the boxes that remained in the storage room**, giving no opportunity for the government to confirm that no documents with classification markings remained.”

    (pues hombre, yo veo aquí indicios de obstrucción... de trump mismo... y encima delante del jay, que tiene pinta de tener el colmillo retorcido...)

    Yet, earlier this month, Bobb told The Washington Post that the lawyers showed the federal officials the boxes, and that Bratt and others spent some time looking through the material.

    Trump made similar claims on social media after the raid, saying that his lawyers and representatives “were cooperating fully, and very good relationships had been established.” He added, “The government could have had whatever they wanted, if we had it.”

    The Justice Department filing also takes aim at **Trump**’s defenders who said he **had declassified the seized material while he was still president or suggested it might somehow be covered by executive privilege**. At that same June 3 meeting, the filing states, “neither counsel nor the custodian asserted that the former President had declassified the documents or asserted any claim of executive privilege.”

    (le echan morro hasta para decir que han desclasificado lo que claramente sigue clasificado... joputas no, lo siguiente)

    Tuesday night’s filing comes ahead of a hearing scheduled Thursday before U.S. District Judge Aileen M. Cannon on a request by Trump’s lawyers to have a special master appointed to review the files seized by the FBI.

    The Justice Department notified the court Monday that a “filter team” of law enforcement officials had already finished its examination of any possibly privileged documents.

    Trump’s legal team filed the request for a special master two weeks after the search, calling the court-approved law enforcement action a “shockingly aggressive,” politically motivated raid and claiming that federal authorities seized records to which they had no legal right.

    But their motion centered on the assertion that much of the seized material contained presidential communications and was therefore shielded by executive privilege. Executive privilege is usually invoked to shield communications from Congress or the courts, not another department of the executive government such as the Justice Department.

    (lo de siempre cuando te pillan, no reconocer la autoridad o peor, decir que te tiene manía y tal... al menos no está el tedh como con los lazis... vaya turra dieron)

    In their filing Tuesday night, federal prosecutors pushed back on what they called “the wide-ranging meritless accusations leveled against the government” by Trump’s lawyers. The request for a special master was pointless, the government reasoned, because its review of the documents was already complete. **The judge should reject Trump’s demands to get the documents back “because those records do not belong to him,**” but are rather the property of the government, the filing said.

    Trump’s legal team may file a response to the government’s motion on Wednesday.

    (hay que joderse que haya que litigar sobre si los archivos son de trump o del gobierno...)

    Although Cannon, who was nominated to the bench by Trump in 2020, said on Saturday that she was inclined to appoint a special master, she also said her order “should not be construed as a final determination on Plaintiff’s Motion.”

    FBI agents who conducted the search took 33 items of evidence, most of them boxes, according to the new filing, which said 13 of the boxes contained classified documents, some categorized as top secret. Avril Haines, the director of national intelligence, told lawmakers Friday that U.S. intelligence analysts will conduct a review of the classified materials to determine the potential risk to national security if their contents were disclosed.

    According to a partially redacted affidavit unsealed Friday, the agents who conducted the search of Mar-a-Lago were seeking all “physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed in violation” of three federal laws, including a part of the Espionage Act outlawing gathering, transmitting or losing national defense information. The warrant also cites laws on destruction of records and concealment or mutilation of government material.

    The search is part of a criminal investigation into whether Trump and his aides took secret government papers and did not return all of them, despite demands from senior officials, and whether anyone obstructed government efforts to recover all of the classified material.



    elarquitecto
    elarquitecto
    2022-09-07
    #51

    ojo, que el trump tenía info sobre capacidades nucleares de... nosabemos

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/06/trump-nuclear-documents/

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    Some of the seized documents detail top-secret U.S. operations so closely guarded that many senior national security officials are kept in the dark about them. **Only the president, some members of his Cabinet or a near-Cabinet-level official could authorize other government officials to know details of these special-access programs**, according to people familiar with the search, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive details of an ongoing investigation.

    Documents about such highly classified operations require special clearances on a need-to-know basis, not just top-secret clearance. Some special-access programs can have as few as a couple dozen government personnel authorized to know of an operation’s existence. **Records that deal with such programs are kept under lock and key, almost always in a secure compartmented information facility, with a designated control officer to keep careful tabs on their location.**

    But such documents were stored at Mar-a-Lago, with uncertain security, more than 18 months after Trump left the White House.

    a ver, esto en mi pueblo se llama brecha de seguridad o algo así, vamos que lo mismo no cae solo la cabeza de trump, sino la de los que custodiaban los documentos también por negligentes

    pero bueno, que la cosa se ha puesto muy muy seria



    lowfour
    lowfour
    2022-09-07
    #52

    Se le va a caer el pelo paja ese que gasta.

    lowfour
    lowfour
    2022-09-07
    #53

    Off topic y hablando de corrupción en USA, me estoy tragando la serie Dopesick sobre el escandalazo de la Oxycontin (oxicodona), el opiáceo de disolución lenta que ha causado estragos en usa, disparando el crimen y la adición a opiáceos y heroína y tal. Esta muy bien la serie! Menuda tela.

    Ya sabia yo la escandalera contra McKinsey que asesoro a la farmacéutica Purdue para maximizar beneficios teniendo en cuenta cuanta gente moría y tal. Brutal.

    Recomendable

    elarquitecto
    elarquitecto
    2022-09-23
    #54

    que dijo el trump el otro día que él desclasifica documentos solo con pensarlo!!!

    un fiera

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/22/trump-legal-danger-investigations/

    pues se va a comer 8 procedimientos con la tontería (de momento)

    **Trump faces at least eight ongoing criminal and civil proceedings, increasing the prospect of becoming the first former U.S. president to face indictment after leaving office.**



    elarquitecto
    elarquitecto
    2022-10-14
    #55

    https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1580711499479519232

    pues han citado a trump para que nos cuente qué era lo que hacía el 6 de enero (y antes, que le van a acusar de instigador y tal)

    The committee voted unanimously to subpoena Trump to submit documents and provide testimony concerning the events of Jan. 6, 2021.

    Committee Chairman Bennie G. Thompson (D-Miss.) said it’s the panel’s “obligation” to seek Trump’s testimony because he is “the one person at the center of the story of what happened on January 6th.”

    elarquitecto
    elarquitecto
    2022-10-14
    #56

    ah, y también esto:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/13/supreme-court-trump-mar-a-lago-classified-documents/

    The Supreme Court on Thursday refused to reinstate Judge Aileen M. Cannon’s order that a special master review classified documents taken in an FBI search of Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump’s Florida home and private club.

    There were no noted dissents to the court’s unsigned, one-sentence order. It amounted to a quick and sharp rejection of an emergency request by the former president to intervene in the high-profile document review, which is part of an ongoing criminal investigation of the potential mishandling of classified material after Trump left the White House.

    vamos, que vaya haciéndose a la idea de que le van a dar un traje naranja 😁

    lowfour
    lowfour
    2022-10-14
    #57

    Estaría muy bien. Y estaría muy bien que saliera todo el guano que se traía con el Putin.

    elarquitecto
    elarquitecto
    2022-11-18
    #58

    @lowfour (post #57)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/11/17/benton-trump-russian-vasilenko-guilty/

    cómo lo ves?

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    y quién ese ese "russian businessman"??

    pues roman vasilenko, un bisnesman detodalavida

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    **Vasilenko sent $100,000 to Benton**, who was working for a pro-Trump super PAC at the time, supposedly for consulting services. **Benton subsequently donated $25,000 to the RNC** by credit card to cover the ticket.

    todo cuadra

    🤡

    Benton said in an email to his RNC contact that **Vasilenko was “a friend who spends most of his time in the Caribbean**”; he described Vasilenko’s interpreter as “a body gal.” In fact, according to the testimony, Benton and Vasilenko had never met.

    **Benton also claimed that he earned the $100,000 acting as a tour guide in Washington for Vasilenko, whose interest was not politics but self-promotio**n.

    llega un momento en que no sabes quién es el timador, eh??

    “He wants to be an influencer,” Stolarz said. “This is just shameless self-promotion from a guy who can afford to take this picture.”

    quién no paga 100k solo por una foto con un pavo que se postula a prechident de los usa?! para promoción propia, hombre! pojclaro!! como feijoo con sito, era pal insta!!

    Benton’s defense downplayed the $25,000 as “nothing” in an election that cost billions.

    calderilla, lo que os decía

    los fiscales decían que tan calderilla no era, porque no le llevaron al mcdonalds al tal roman:

    Stolarz said Benton was also paid to organize a charity dinner Vasilenko attended on his U.S. trip, which prosecutors dismissed as a cheap meal at a chain restaurant.

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    la verdad, no me ha quedado claro lo del funneling, porque me da que este funnelizaba todo hacia su bolsillo, con la excusa de las donaciones para la campaña



    elarquitecto
    elarquitecto
    2022-11-19
    #59

    pues como trump dice que se presenta, y le quieren meter preso antes, han nombrado a un fiscal especial para lo suyo del capitolio y de quedarse carpetitas de colores con "top secret" de portada

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/11/18/trump-justice-department-mar-a-lago/

    ese es el pavo, un fiscal especializado en crímenes de guerra

    poca broma



    lowfour
    lowfour
    2022-11-19
    #60

    @elarquitecto (post #59)

    Lo vi antes. A este le va a caer la del pulpo por contubernio anti global-masónico con Putin. Me juego lo que queráis que este no va a ser presidente de nuevo.

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