yo no sé si acabarán con el desmantelamiento del Estado, pero que lo van a joder todo lo que puedan ni cotiza y todavía no tengo claro que no quieran instaurar un "reich" a modo de "antiguo regimen" con sus castas y tal... ser ciudadanos solo será un privilegio de unos pocos acaudalados, el resto chuma... ah, y "sacerdocio" (tecno-sacerdocio) por lo pronto, lo que ya esperábamos (el nytimes se hace el sorprendido, pero nomejodas) [URL=https://i.imgur.com/1hZQxin.png][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/1hZQxin.png[/IMG][/URL]

[URL=https://i.imgur.com/A5sPCCQ.png][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/A5sPCCQ.png[/IMG][/URL] es que no lo digo yo, lo vienen constatando esta mañana pensaba, joder, si nosotros nos coscamos de la jugada, la peña que se dedica a esto y tiene sus medios y tal, qué cojones deben de saber, eh?? yo supongo que las alarmas a tope por todos lados, pero la movida es qué se puede hacer??

que vale, parece que lo que están capando es lo que pueda afectar al trucho de musk en sus mierdas "empresariales" [URL=https://i.imgur.com/ZvKAoUa.png][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/ZvKAoUa.png[/IMG][/URL] pero no me jodas, están clonando servidores y tal, despidiendo a funcionarios, inspectores, agentes de aduanas... estoy seguro de que tienen un plan, solo desconocemos cómo es de profundo la "señal" de que está jodiéndose el plan será cuando empiecen a decir "todo esto es parte del plan" (como les pasó a los lazis tras cagarla el 1-O con su butifarrendo y empezar a ser enchironados todos)

Vale, pues un pavo usó chatgpt para desmontar el shitshow del paleto nazi con pasta y la gorrita https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1injufu/i_asked_deep_research_to_evaluate_and_respond_to/ Fact-Checking the Claims in the Video The video (featuring Elon Musk and former President Donald Trump) makes several striking claims about government fraud, waste, and specific agencies (like USAID, the Treasury/IRS, and Social Security). Below is a breakdown of key claims and what credible sources such as the Government Accountability Office (GAO), Congressional Budget Office (CBO), Inspectors General (IG), and reputable fact-checkers say about them: Claim: “Hundreds of billions in government fraud and waste” Video’s Claim: Musk and Trump suggest there are enormous amounts of fraud and waste in federal spending – possibly “hundreds of billions” of dollars that could be saved by rooting out inefficiency. Facts & Verification: This claim has a kernel of truth but needs context. A recent GAO analysis provided a first-ever estimate of fraud across the entire federal government, finding that the government could be losing between $233 billion and $521 billion each year to fraud. The wide range reflects uncertainty and the fact that not all fraud is detected. The lower end (around $233B) represents about 3.6% of the roughly $6.4 trillion federal budget (more on budget context in the next section). This GAO figure is often cited by reformers (and appears to be what Musk/Trump reference). However, it is an estimate, not a confirmed amount of recoverable waste. It aggregates potential fraud across all programs, including things like Medicare/Medicaid billing fraud, tax evasion, unemployment insurance fraud, and so on. It’s important to distinguish fraud from improper payments. Improper payments include any payment that shouldn’t have been made or was made in the wrong amount – not all are fraud (some are errors or inefficiencies). According to the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), federal agencies reported about $236 billion in improper payments in FY2023. Thanks to efforts to tighten controls (and the winding down of pandemic emergency programs), improper payments declined to about $161.5 billion in FY2024, roughly 4% of outlays, the lowest rate in years according to OMB. Only a fraction of those improper payments are confirmed as fraud (the rest might be documentation errors or overpayments that can often be clawed back). These official figures are much lower than the high-end $500+ billion Musk cites, suggesting Musk’s rhetoric may be seizing on an extreme, cumulative estimate rather than actual documented losses. In short, while fraud and waste exist and can sum to hundreds of billions in a large $6 trillion budget, the video’s implication that this amount is clearly identified or easily recovered is misleading. GAO stresses the need for better fraud risk management precisely because these losses are hard to fully track. Historically, experts estimate actual waste or inefficiency at only a small percentage of the budget (“a few pennies on the dollar”), whereas public perception (and political rhetoric) often vastly overestimates waste. Claim: “USAID is wasting money (or is a ‘criminal organization’) – e.g., $50 million on Gaza condoms, millions to media, etc.” Video’s Claim: Musk has singled out the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), calling it a “criminal organization,” and Trump echoed claims that USAID engaged in absurd or corrupt spending. Specific allegations circulating online – some amplified by Musk – include: USAID allegedly spent $50 million on condoms in Gaza. USAID gave $8 million (or other large sums) to the media outlet Politico. USAID’s leadership had exorbitant pay (e.g., a former USAID chief making $23 million). USAID funded “radical” programs like diversity training abroad (implying waste). Facts & Verification (USAID): These dramatic claims are largely false or greatly exaggerated: “$50 million on condoms for Gaza” – False. This claim has been thoroughly debunked by fact-checkers. There is no evidence of any $50 million U.S. program buying condoms for Gaza; it appears to be a baseless rumor that began online and was repeated by a White House spokesperson without proof (Fact Check: No evidence US spent $50 million on condoms for Gaza). Reuters confirmed the administration “discovered” no such program – USAID had no line item remotely resembling $50 million for condoms in Gaza (Fact Check: No evidence US spent $50 million on condoms for Gaza). This seems to be a clear example of misinformation that made its way into political talking points. Musk repeating this claim is echoing an urban myth, not an actual finding. “Millions given to Politico (media)” – Mischaracterized. Another claim is that USAID was effectively funding media outlets like Politico with taxpayer money (implying propaganda or graft). In reality, USAID did not grant money to Politico. What happened is USAID’s financial management office purchased a subscription service from Politico for $44,000 – essentially paying for access to Politico’s professional news or data service. Some online sources inflated this into a story that USAID gave Politico $8 million or more, which is flatly false. Even the $44k subscription, while real, is a trivial administrative expense in the context of USAID’s multi-billion budget – but it was spun politically as if it were a corrupt payoff. Politico and fact-checkers have clarified this was a standard paid news subscription, “a transaction, not funding,” and no grants or subsidies were given to the outlet. “USAID chief made $23 million” – False. Musk at one point amplified a claim that a former USAID administrator had a $23 million salary or payout. This is incorrect. USAID administrators are government officials with public salaries set by law (well under $200k annually). The $23 million figure appears to be a complete fabrication. Forbes reports that Musk and others spread this “baseless or false claim”, which has no grounding in official records. In short, top USAID officials do not make anything close to that amount – the claim likely confuses some unrelated figure or is simply a hoax. “Wasteful USAID projects” – Context. The video references specific USAID programs, likely to paint the agency as ideologically driven or wasteful. One example reportedly highlighted was a $1.5 million USAID program to support diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in Serbian workplaces. This is a real grant (aimed at promoting inclusive economic growth abroad), but it’s portrayed as “ridiculous” by critics. Importantly, $1.5 million is a microscopic fraction of federal spending (about 0.00002% of the budget). While reasonable people can debate a program’s merit, calling such a minor grant evidence of massive waste is misleading. Similarly, claims that USAID broadly “launders” money to left-wing groups are conspiracy-style assertions without proof. In fact, USAID’s funds mostly go toward foreign development projects, humanitarian aid, and U.S. strategic initiatives overseas, which traditionally had bipartisan support. Bottom Line (USAID): The rhetoric far outruns the facts. Several high-profile claims Musk and Trump have made about USAID have been debunked or shown to be distorted:In evaluating Musk and Trump’s statements, credible oversight bodies (like USAID’s Inspector General or the GAO) have not reported systemic criminal behavior or egregious “hundreds of billions” waste at USAID. Some waste or inefficient projects? Certainly – as with any large agency – but nothing on the scale or of the absurd nature claimed in the video. Musk called USAID “criminal” but provided no evidence of criminal wrongdoing. No charges or official findings support that label – it’s an opinion, not a fact. The supposed $50M Gaza condom scheme does not exist (Fact Check: No evidence US spent $50 million on condoms for Gaza). The Politico funding claim was false (off by two orders of magnitude). These misleading claims have even been identified as part of an online disinformation campaign. For instance, Musk shared a video alleging USAID paid celebrities to visit Ukraine, which was actually traced to Russian propaganda sources. This indicates some of the narratives used to attack USAID are not grounded in reality, but rather in adversarial propaganda or rumor. Claim: “Treasury/IRS sent out huge sums fraudulently (like stimulus checks to the dead)” Video’s Claim: The discussion suggests agencies like the Treasury or IRS are mishandling funds, for example by sending checks to people who shouldn’t get them (dead people, fraudulent recipients), implying massive incompetence or fraud in programs like stimulus payments. Facts & Verification (Treasury/IRS): There is a factual basis that some improper payments occurred during recent stimulus programs, but again context is key: During the COVID-19 pandemic, the IRS (under the Treasury Department) rushed to send out economic stimulus checks. In mid-2020, a GAO audit found that about 1.1 million payments totaling $1.4 billion were sent to deceased individuals (people who had died before the checks were issued). This happened because IRS initially didn’t have access to updated death records at the speed checks went out. Once identified, the Treasury and IRS took steps to halt further erroneous payments and to recoup those funds where possible. Many relatives of deceased recipients returned or repaid the money. While $1.4B is a lot, it represented a small fraction of the roughly $270 billion in first-round payments (about 0.5%). This issue of payments to the deceased is not new nor partisan. A decade earlier, in 2009, a stimulus initiative under the Obama administration (a one-time $250 payment to seniors/veterans) inadvertently sent about 71,000 checks to deceased people as well. The GAO and agency IGs have long recommended better use of Social Security death data to avoid such mistakes. In short, yes, mistaken payments occurred – but identifying them also shows the system’s oversight in action. These are categorized as improper payments, and they highlight bureaucratic challenges (data matching across agencies) more than wanton fraud. Fraudulent Claims: Large emergency programs like pandemic relief unfortunately attracted fraudsters. The Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) and unemployment benefit expansions saw organized fraud rings steal tens of billions by exploiting weak identity checks during the crisis. GAO and IG reports do document significant fraud in those programs. However, those were extraordinary circumstances, and the government is actively indicting many perpetrators. Musk/Trump may be alluding to these as evidence of broad government fraud – it’s true these losses were substantial (estimates range from $100B upward across all COVID relief programs), but these are being investigated and are not a sustained annual occurrence. They also occurred under both the Trump and Biden administrations as part of pandemic response. Bottom Line (Treasury/Stimulus): Yes, mistakes and fraud happened in federal payments, especially under the massive pressure of pandemic aid. Billions went to wrong recipients – including the deceased – but oversight agencies caught these issues and often corrected them. It’s evidence that internal checks (like GAO audits) work, not that bureaucrats were gleefully wasting money. It’s also worth noting these losses, while notable, are still a small percentage of total disbursements. Describing the Treasury or IRS as fundamentally inept or corrupt based on these issues is an overreach. The agencies followed the laws Congress passed; when laws prioritized speed over strict verification, some erroneous payments resulted. Ongoing efforts by the Treasury, IRS, and watchdogs aim to improve payment integrity (for example, using Social Security death data in real-time to avoid repeats). In summary, the specific figures cited (e.g. $1.4B to dead people) are accurate from GAO reports, but the context (extraordinary event, fixes in progress, proportion of total spending) matters. It isn’t evidence of pervasive “criminal” intent by agencies, but rather challenges in administration that are being addressed. Claim: “Social Security and other agencies rife with fraud and improper payments” Video’s Claim: The video mentions the Social Security Administration (SSA) and perhaps others, implying they are riddled with fraud, overpayments, or waste (the sort of “fraud, waste, and abuse” catch-all often cited). Possibly a claim that Social Security paid benefits to thousands of dead people or wasted huge sums. Facts & Verification (Social Security and Others): Social Security is a huge program (paying monthly benefits to ~70 million Americans), and like any large program it has some improper payments. But data show the vast majority of SSA payments are correct, and overpayment rates, while non-zero, are relatively low: According to the SSA’s Office of the Inspector General, from FY 2015-2022, Social Security made about $72 billion in improper payments, mostly overpayments. This sounds large, but over 8 years that averages about $9 billion per year, against annual outlays of $1 trillion+ for SSA. In percentage terms, that’s roughly 0.7% of SSA outlays – meaning over 99% of Social Security dollars go to the right person in the correct amount. Many overpayments are not fraud but, for example, late reported deaths or changes in beneficiary status that get corrected after a payment went out. SSA actively works to recover overpaid benefits; tens of billions have been clawed back or adjusted. A sensational statistic sometimes cited (perhaps referenced in the video) is that “Social Security paid $108 billion to dead people in one year.” This is misleading. A 2013 GAO review did find data issues leading to an estimated $108 billion in improper payments in FY2012 related to death record inaccuracies. However, that number refers to all sorts of improper payments flagged for review – not literally that $108B was confirmed paid to deceased persons. In fact, $108B was about the total of all Social Security improper payments that year, and GAO was highlighting that better death data sharing could prevent such errors. It does not mean SSA mailed $108B in checks to dead people deliberately. The vast majority of those funds were likely either recovered or accounted for once errors were resolved. The actual known payments to deceased individuals were much smaller, but still too high, hence the push for using a unified death database. Other agencies have varying issues: Medicare and Medicaid, for instance, see more improper payments by rate (often due to complex billing and fraud by outside providers). The Pentagon has its own contracting waste (like cost overruns) which Musk/Trump did not highlight but is significant. The point is, every large agency has some level of improper payments, yet each has oversight mechanisms catching many of them. For example, the Social Security IG and GAO regularly audit SSA; their reports lead to tightening eligibility checks and systems upgrades (e.g., SSA’s new electronic death reporting to stop checks immediately when someone dies). Bottom Line (SSA and others): There is some truth that agencies like SSA deal with improper payments – tens of billions over years – but it’s often overstated in political rhetoric. The video’s implication of rampant fraud doesn’t reflect the reality that most federal payments (≈96-99%) are delivered correctly. In Social Security’s case, payments to deceased individuals are a known problem mostly because people sometimes die without immediate record updates; once detected, those checks stop. There’s no evidence of a malicious conspiracy inside SSA to waste money – if anything, bureaucrats are usually trying to reduce payment errors (SSA has steadily kept its payment accuracy fairly high, and OMB reported government-wide improper payment rates dropped to record lows in 2024). The claims in the video cherry-pick worst-case numbers without acknowledging these caveats. In summary, many of the specific figures cited in the video are distorted or taken out of context: The “hundreds of billions” in waste is an estimate of potential fraud, not a found pot of recoverable cash. USAID’s alleged scandals (condoms, media payments, etc.) are largely false narratives (Fact Check: No evidence US spent $50 million on condoms for Gaza). Stimulus check errors did occur (about $1.4B to deceased), but were a small share and have been addressed. Social Security inefficiencies exist but are relatively minor relative to its size, and there’s no evidence of intentional massive fraud by the agency itself. Where the video makes valid points – e.g., highlighting GAO’s concern about fraud – it tends to omit the fact that those very numbers come from government watchdogs doing their job (in other words, the system itself identified issues and informed Congress, which is how governance is supposed to work). Thus, an objective review shows some claims are exaggerated or misleading, and it’s crucial to rely on reputable sources like GAO, CBO, OMB, and Inspectors General for the true scale of waste and fraud. Mathematical Analysis of Waste vs. Federal Budget To put Musk and Trump’s claims in perspective, we need to compare the alleged waste/fraud figures to the overall federal budget and official data on government finances. This involves examining the size of the federal budget, breaking it down by major components, and seeing what portion the claimed “waste” represents. We also contrast the allegations with documented figures from oversight bodies like GAO and OMB. Federal Budget Overview and Major Components The total federal budget (expenditures) for recent years has been on the order of $6 trillion or more annually. For example, in FY2023 the U.S. federal outlays were about $6.4 trillion. This money is allocated across various departments and programs. A high-level breakdown shows where most of the money goes: Social Security: About 21–22% of the budget. In FY2023, Social Security spending was roughly $1.35 trillion, about 22% of total federal outlays. This is the single largest budget item, reflecting retirement and disability benefits for millions of Americans. Healthcare Programs: About 25% of the budget combined. This includes Medicare (health insurance for seniors) and Medicaid (health coverage for low-income and disabled individuals), along with related health spending. In FY2022 these together were around $1.34 trillion (5.4% of GDP). For FY2023, Medicare alone was ~13% and other health spending ~14%. Combined federal health expenditures approach one-quarter of spending. Defense: About 13–15% of the budget. National defense was around $800+ billion in recent years. In FY2023, about $877 billion was spent on national defense, roughly 13–14% of the budget. Defense is the largest discretionary (annually appropriated) category. Interest on Debt: Around 10% (and rising). With rising interest rates and debt levels, net interest on the national debt was $475 billion in FY2022 and rose to an estimated $658 billion in FY2023, roughly 10% of spending. This is essentially money “wasted” in a sense that it services past borrowing, and it’s growing rapidly. Veterans’ Benefits: About 5%. FY2023 spent roughly $323 billion on veterans’ programs (health care, pensions, etc.). Education, Science, Transportation, etc. (Non-defense Discretionary): These collectively account for around 15% of spending. This pot includes everything from education grants to NASA to highway funds. No single program here rivals the big ones above in size. International Affairs (Foreign Aid including USAID): A very small slice, typically ~1% or less of the budget. For instance, all foreign affairs spending was about $72 billion (roughly 1%) in a recent year. USAID’s budget is a subset of this (around $40 billion in FY2023), which is about 0.6% of the federal budget. This context is crucial: even if USAID had some waste, it’s affecting at most a fraction of one percent of federal spending. These figures show that the big drivers of federal spending are entitlements (Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid) and defense, not the administrative overhead of agencies. Bureaucratic operating costs (salaries, office expenses across all agencies) are only a minor part of the budget, since most spending is direct benefits, contracts, or grants mandated by law. Musk/Trump Waste Claims vs. Documented Figures Musk and Trump’s Claims: They suggest that cutting fraud and inefficiency could save “hundreds of billions,” implying a substantial portion of the budget is effectively being squandered. Let’s quantify that: Suppose, as Musk hints, there is $200–$500 billion of waste/fraud yearly that could be eliminated. On a $6.4 trillion budget, $500B is about 7.8% and $233B is about 3.6%. Even the high-end claim is under 8% of spending. While significant, it would not offset the entire deficit (which was ~$1.4 trillion in 2022 and higher in 2023) and certainly wouldn’t allow tax cuts or new programs with no other changes. For comparison, interest on the debt alone (money we must pay) was around $475B in 2022, roughly similar to the high fraud estimate – and interest costs are rising. So even if fraud waste were magically zero, the structural deficit would remain because major programs cost more than revenue. Official Fraud/Improper Payment Estimates: As noted, GAO estimates potential fraud at $233–$521B annually. The Office of Management and Budget reported actual improper payments of $161.5B in 2024 (down from $236B in 2023). The truth likely lies in between – there is certainly over $100B of waste and fraud each year, but reaching the higher end would include a lot of undetected or theoretical fraud. Musk and Trump emphasizing the upper bound might mislead one to think this is confirmed, easily targetable cash. In reality, fighting fraud is a gradual process of many small fixes (saving a few billion here, a few million there). Breakdown by Department (Context of Alleged Waste): If one believes the claim of ~$500B waste, it’s important to ask where that is. The largest programs (Social Security, Medicare) do have the largest dollar amounts of improper payments simply due to size (e.g., Medicare’s improper payment rate ~7.5% in 2023, which is ~$30B in dollar terms). But you cannot eliminate Medicare – you can only try to reduce things like billing fraud. Historically, efforts like strengthening Medicare anti-fraud units have recovered a few billion per year in fraudulent billings – good, but not game-changing sums on the scale of the program. The video targets USAID (foreign aid), but that entire budget (~$40B) is less than one tenth of the purported waste figure. Even abolishing USAID completely (which means zero foreign aid) would save $40B – a drop in the bucket of a $6.4T budget, and

@"lowfour"#p35336 tío, por esto quiere comprar chat-gpeto, para que no le cante las verdades y una cosa te digo, me da cada vez peor rollo lo de las ia (no es de ahora, desde chatgpt3.5 por lo menos) porque "asumimos" cierto grado de "neutralidad" y mira, no, ni del palo voy a seguir con el rollo "escéptico" con las ia, por higiene mental o algo así, porque ahora igual no nos cuelan propaganda, pero nomejodas... si la ia no sabe dibujar manos con 5 dedos (falla mucho) y cosas así, en casos donde hay que encontrar "excepciones" y no tirar de "tópicos" lo mismo pasa igual, que falla, especialmente si los truchos inundan las bases de aprendizaje de mierda inventada en fin, yo creo que esto nos vale, porque sabemos ya que lo hacen así, no es de ahora: ### Constantly calling government “corrupt” erodes trust in democracy. ### Overstating waste lets politicians distract from real deficit drivers (tax cuts, military spending, aging population). ### If Americans believe the system is hopelessly rigged, they’re more likely to accept extreme, undemocratic solutions. esto no hace falta que nos lo diga la ia, pero está bien que lo tengamos muy presente, porque llevamos una década con estas mierdas... generalmente patrocinadas por putin (como los lazis, por ejemplo, en cataluña) por qué mis colegas super-rojeras (ellos se creen así) eran lazis?? porque "españa" era facha, era "corrupta", el estado español (la monarquía) era "franquista", así que aceptemos "soluciones" anti-democráticas (revestidas de pseudo-democracia, bulembutá o "derecho a decidir") y olvidemos problemas estructurales internos (corrupción de ciu, el 3%, falta de inversiones públicas, como vinos en la sequía, etc)

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@"lowfour"#p35339 sisi, esto ya lo puse ayer y bueno, venimos comentándolo desde hace un par de días o más, que toda esa movida de desmantelar el estado era (o podría ser) en última instancia, el intento de puentear las "trabas" burocráticas a las empresas de musk o sea, de salir de rositas de todas las mierdas y multas y tal que tiene por ser un joputa premium en cada empresa que maneja el pavo este ketaminico no sabe "jugar" sin hacer trampas, eh?? o gana o trampitas

@"elarquitecto"#p35345 Es todo un bajón eh? Menudo bajón tener al puto gordo al frente de USA. Es TODO mal, pero profundamente mal.

@"lowfour"#p35346 pensábamos que 2020 y el covic fue malo... pues... la putada es que no tenemos ni vacunas ni mascarillas ni na... que sepamos lo mismo nos sale una vonderleyen o un psycho-ken en plan zelensky contra el trucho de putin (pero sin guerra, esperemos) y veremos algo de esperanza, pero ahora mismo... guano mil por todas partes, a todas horas, cada día es lo que te decía ayer o el lunes, que te levantas con la cosa de a ver que hijoputez pasó anoche en usa... y luego a media tarde, cuando se levantan en la costa este, empiezan a llegar mierdas de nuevo

pues van a empobrecer a saco a la población [URL=https://i.imgur.com/BckDMBa.png][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/BckDMBa.png[/IMG][/URL] 3 billones de deuda más (total, quién va a pedirles cuentas, verdad?), lo que viene siendo 2 veces el pib de españa más o menos y quitar "paguitas" para bajar impuestos a los ricos... lo que supondría que los ricos dejarían de pagar 4,5 billones (aprox 3 pib de españa) cómo te quedas??

Ay que me LOL https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1iny87s/elons_kid_tells_trump_you_are_not_the_president/ Supongo que es un fake, pero si no me LOL, es como ver Idiocracy

el desmantelamiento de USA a manos de techmonguers

elarquitecto

la de la cnn lo flipa en colores al final del discurso

el sanders por fin espabila, le ha costao solo 4 días

elarquitecto

https://elpais.com/comunicacion/2025-06-11/entrevista-a-joseph-stiglitz-con-trump-es-posible-que-la-democracia-desaparezca-en-estados-unidos.html

el stiglitz nos lee

Cinta_de_Carromero

Cómo lloran los progres socialdemócratas de mierda, se sentían triunfadores en "su democracia" con su ladrillo caro y sus inversiones financieras mientras se creían que no eran otra cosa que rentistas explotadores, blanqueando su mala conciencia con mucho DEI y ESG.

Intentaron "cancelar" (en sus términos) a Trump y ahora espero que los cancele a ellos, recuperando la democracia no basada en ladrillo caro y las familias de clase media para arriba convertidas en fondos de inversión

Me nvtre

elarquitecto

che, me he puesto 5 min lo del ferreras y menudo subnormal, macho
no le aguanto 6 min

no deja hablar y te intenta colar "argumentario" o algo así, es un poco cuñao

tiene al orriols y al otro que sabe la ostia de usa y no les deja exponer sus opiniones sin interrumpirles

el emilio dice que la democracia anda en "suspenso" y si no, a punto de colapsar, que incluso están deportando a europeos a guantánamo (bueno, lo han planteado porque los "Konzentrationslager" de detención de inmis están ya petaos de las salvajadas que andan haciendo

y el orriols, en cambio, es "vexleriano", como lowfour, y dice que no, que la democracia de los usa es fuerte y que aguantará, que tengamos paciencia

paciencia mis cojones, orriols, yo con el emilio, esto de desplegar marines pasándose por el forro la autonomía de un estado no tranquiliza nada
ahora las protestas se han extendido por illinois (chicago) y seguramente más (en nueva york ni cotiza que se apuntan)

y no tengo pruebas, pero tampoco dudas, de que donde están apretando más contra los "inmis" (legales o no) es en los estados demócratas, en los republicanos, como texas o arizona o nevada, donde ganó trump, pasan
pero también donde la mano de obra inmi es parte del pib interno en mayor medida (salvo los estados del centro este, que también) y todo esto de la caza al inmi tiene también su parte de joder la economía interna

elarquitecto

estaba claro que los de nueva york se apuntaban

lowfour

elarquitecto

lowfour

este te lo cuenta claro, eh?

estamos, yo creo, en el momento "clave", si no se para ahora a los truchos, el chocho se monta, reich trucho de los mil años

elarquitecto

se viene! o no... ya veremos

pero yo supongo que van a parar a los truchos y vamos a ver qué pasa

Jag

Estos no han visto la de civil war verdad???? Es que parece calcado a los argumentos previos de la peli, que se quiere perpetuar en el poder e instaurar un control total acabando con la democracia..... Y qué casualidad que las fuerzas de California son de las primeras que se oponen al presi malo....

Al final Hollywood va a ser un gran adivino. Esperemos que 1984 no sea otro anticipo.....

Cinta_de_Carromero

@elarquitecto eres un ~~maximalista~~ exagerado, solamente van a deportar a los inmigrantes ilegales, que es lo que todos los gobiernos deberían hacer por cierto. Hay canales legales para la inmigración, el que se los salta es por dos motivos: o es un criminal que no entraría legalmente, o el país tiene un modelo de inmigración de ilegalidad generalizada que de facto implica puertas abiertas (como pasa aquí)

Los progres deberíais estar en contra de la inmigración masiva del tercer mundo al primero, aunque solamente fuera porque mientras este modelo siga así el tercer mundo seguirá siendo pobre y corrupto, porque para qué arreglar digamos Colombia si te puedes subir a un avión o a la Bestia y así huir a EEUU.

lowfour

FLI-PO

elarquitecto

lowfour
he ido a ver si era fake o no
no
https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2025/06/12/trump-opens-5-million-gold-card-visa-for-signups-what-to-know/

al menos existe el artículo en forbes

que vale, se la han colado alguna vez, pero nos parece perfectamente "creible" toda esta mierda, o qué?
o sea, para un presidente normal, sería increible, pero para un culicagao corrupto y convicto, no

elarquitecto

ojo que te enlazan a esto de hace un mes (antes de la ruptura)

mira tú, al final, el rollo anti-inmis es rollo anti-oswaldos probretones, eh?? quién lo iba a decir... bueno, ya tenemos hilo sobre el tema por ahí, recuerdo que dijimos que racismo era clasismo en el fondo

elarquitecto

che, hay que agilizar a los jueces, eh? no puede ser que tarden 5 días en hacer lo obvio

que no se meta con lo de los marines lo entiendo (mal, pero bueno, es competencia "federal" sacarlos de los cuarteles), siempre que los marines se queden desfilando y no aporreando manifestantes o suplantando a las autoridades estatales

en fin, a ver qué inventan ahora los truchis

de momento la democracia "resiste", pero no sé, eh?

elarquitecto

esto se "inventan" los truchis

el que redacta es un mono o algo así, porque nomejodas
la ley californiana prohibe la venta de vehículos de combustión NUEVOS a partir de 2035 (cosa que estuvimos a punto de hacer en europa, pero se rajaron porque "loby")

no solo eso, la ley hacía más cosas, como reducir emisiones y contaminación por nox y fomentaba el uso de coches eléctricos (como hizo el propio culicagao hace un par de meses comprando un tesla, por cierto, menudo cínico, ni esperanza aguirre!)

ahora quiere tumbar esa ley por sus santos cojones
fijo que invocando alguna mierda del siglo xix sobre emergencia o algo así
claramente invade competencias

elarquitecto

ojo, no es "sacan por la fuerza", LO ARRESTAN!

aquí otro tiro de camara:

la excusa es que no tenía la chapa de seguridad o algo así, que no sabían quién era y les pareció "peligroso"

claroquesí

elarquitecto

congresista tiroteada en su casa junto con su marido

también han intentado zumbarse a un senador

joder, luego que si no hay dictadura trucha

la congresista y el senador, tenían cara de ser peligrosos "wokes" o algo así, eh?
venganomejodas

lowfour

elarquitecto

Joder lo vi esta mañana. Demócratas???? Mafia? Ajuste de cuentas? Asssinato político?

elarquitecto

lowfour
dicen que politico, pero vete a saber, igual era un palillero que no le recalificaban los terrenos (que no deja de ser político, pero bueno)

elarquitecto

por cierto que el walz es el que se presentaba como vicepresi con kamala

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