ayer decía @Ungaunga que la otan y tal estaban preparando a ucrania para parar la ofensiva que (presuntamente) prepara putin para primavera. como sabéis, yo soy escéptico de que puedan apañar algo parecido a una ofensiva con los mimbres actuales, ya que la pifiaron a lo grande cuando los mimbres estaban nuevos y tenían el factor sorpresa (bueno, los ucranianos ya se lo olían, seguro) de su parte y tal... les masacraron... pero es que hoy nos encontramos con esto: están instalando defensas anti-aéras en moscú podemos pensar que es una técnica ladrillera para aumentar el valor del condominio o algo así pero igual es que hay info que dice que... qué? ya vimos ataques a las bases de los bombarderos en suelo ruso yo es que creo que los tiros van a ir por aquí, la iniciativa es ucraniana, y sí, se retiraron de soledar, porque los wagner se empeñaron en tomarla y les costó 4000 muertos

tendría que haber titulado el hilo "porra a ver si pispamos algo de lo que se nos viene encima en los próximos meses" o algo así

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/19/defensive-missile-systems-erected-on-moscow-rooftops

elarquitecto sin tener ni puta idea me pongo el gorro ruso y hablo. Podrían lanzar ofensivas limitadas en oleadas humanas, como han hecho en Soledar o Bakhmut con el objetivo de desgastar a los ucros y forzar las negociaciones de paz. Sumemos los ataques terroristas contra la población civil para seguir presionando la moral. No van a conquistar Kiev, pero podrían apuntar a quedarse con lo que ya tienen. Los 60 blindados occidentales (leopards, challengers y bradleys) servirían para detener cualquier chatarra que hayan podido poner en servicio para estas hipotéticas ofensivas. Una ventaja de atacar es que si entraña cierto riesgo para el defensor, este va a desviar reservas y no te monta un ataque en otro lugar. Lo digo por no callar, cualquier parecido con la realidad será pura coincidencia.

lowfour pues me voy a poner gorrito de aluminio y soltar la siguiente parida: no se están defendiendo de los ucranianos, sino de ellos mismos se me acaba de ocurrir, así que muchas vueltas no le he dado y lo mismo ni tiene sentido, pero si tenemos en cuenta que estaban a la gresca con los wagner, que putin es un puto paranoico que la medicación le ha vuelto a un más paranoico que andan con atentados rarunos y caidas raras desde ventanas que no se abren o escaleras de incendios que nadie usa... en fin, que si hay ya ejércitos de oligarcas medio operando por rusia y tal, quien te dice que todo esto no es para evitar que caigan drones donde no toca y de repente haya una vacante en el generalato o algo así que desequilibre todo hacia un wagner o veteasaber eah, fin de gorrito de aluminio

Otro video de lo que pusimos antes

lowfour el primer comentario que me sale estamos todos pensando en lo mismo?? esto va de guerra civil o qué? otra pista: han puesto la localización, y ucrania no está en esa dirección (tomando como origen el kremlin) de hecho, está como a 90º o así hacia el sur suroeste vamos, que no sé qué están protegiendo, o que igual hay que poner así de lejos lo que quieres proteger, pero me da que es raro, no?

elarquitecto Pues es lo primero que pensé cuando lo vi esta tarde en Reddit. Que cojones esperan, que les manden un drone hasta el Kremlin? De todas formas se lo colarían. Esto es una movida o de paranoia extrema de Putin... o de meter el acojone al personal y colarles el reclutamiento que viene ahora con el tema de "defender la madre patria".

lowfour pues igual es eso, pon defensas a saco para acojonar al personal y que hagan lo que les digamos yo es que creo que si aguanta el peso del mamotreto ese del pantsir, lo demás ya casi se le supone... esta hipótesis me ha recordado a una teoría sobre la caza de brujas en los paises protestantes, que venía a decir algo similar, la movida no iba sobre la fe o la brujería o tal, sino de acojonar al personal y hacer ver que se estaba haciendo algo al respecto ante un problemón tan intenso como es la brujería es lo que hace cinta y sus patrocinadores de vox, quieren crear un "problema" con las abortistas (y las llaman mochileras y tal) pero para hacer ver que ellos son los que mejor saben resolver ese tipo de "problema" obviamente, hay que retorcer un poquito la realidad o instalar mamotretos anti-aéreos en azoteas ramdon por toda la ciudad para que funcione un poco

elarquitecto es lo que hace cinta y sus patrocinadores de vox, quieren crear un "problema" con las abortistas (y las llaman mochileras y tal) pero para hacer ver que ellos son los que mejor saben resolver ese tipo de "problema" obviamente, hay que retorcer un poquito la realidad o instalar mamotretos anti-aéreos en azoteas ramdon por toda la ciudad para que funcione un poco Ya te dije que desde que externalizaron toda la producción de niños en el tercer mundo, el aborto ya no es un problema.

Esto lo pusieron un par de días antes, no se si lo puse por aquí.

la ofensiva está atascada, ahora hilo para anticipar "contraofensivas".

Jag

Parece que hay pruebas ineludibles que lo de la presa han sido los rusos -->

Al loro porque el Igor este también dice que fue un general también borracho el que dijo que la volaran.......

lowfour

Debe haber COVIC entre las filas rusas.

Ungaunga

lowfour se han kakunado y se están repentinando todos. [Mode conspiranoico OFF]

lowfour

Pues si que es verdad que casi ahogan a sus propias tropas!

elarquitecto

lo de volar la presa es digno de torrente

yo creo que en el ejército ruso (al mando) solo quedan las cintas y otros ciberputis (alguno incluso caribeño y todo) que tienen estas ideas geniales

como cuando el 1-O pedían los "torrentes" patrios bombardear barcelona o sacar tanques y tal... las mismas luces

lowfour

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-offensive-broken-through-russian-lines-prigozhin-bakhmut-donetsk-zaporizhzhia-1804946

Ukraine Offensive Has 'Broken Through' Russian Lines: Prigozhin

The mercenary Wagner Group chief Yevgeny Prigozhin has called on Moscow to provide him with 200,000 troops in order to halt the long-promised Ukrainian counteroffensive, as assaults by Kyiv troops reportedly pushed past Russian defensive lines and made ground around the devastated Donetsk city of Bakhmut.

Prigozhin—well-known for his public bravado and criticism of the regular Russian military hierarchy—said in a video posted to his official Telegram channel on Tuesday that his Wagner organization is the only armed force capable of stopping the Ukrainian attack, which officials in Russia and the West say may have now begun.

"I need 200,000 people," Prigozhin said, as quoted in an article by The Moscow Times. "Less than 200,000 on the Luhansk-Donetsk frontline will not cope. We are ready to take full responsibility."

Disputes between Wagner and the Russian military over supplies in Bakhmut prompted Prigozhin to begin withdrawing his forces from the destroyed settlement last month. Wagner is believed to have suffered large losses in taking Bakhmut, its numbers bolstered by former Russian prisoners recruited to fight.

Prigozhin urged Russian President Vladimir Putin to announce a full national mobilization to expand its military forces, though added that without an adequate three-month training window, these newly raised units would be "cannon fodder." Wagner tactics have reportedly relied heavily on such "fodder" in Bakhmut.

Ukrainian forces, Prigozhin said, "have already broken through the line of defense" in several areas.

"Near Bakhmut in three places, in Toretsk there is a large accumulation, and soon they will begin to cut Kurdyumovka and Ozaryanovka. The Belgorod region is bursting at the seams. In Zaporizhzhia, they lost the most serious settlement. Now they will hit the north and south in the Donetsk direction and there will be no time. Aviation will not save [the situation]."

Prigozhin again hit out at the Russian Defense Ministry. "There is no management, there is no planning, there is no preparation, there is no mutual respect," he said. "And then all this is replaced by tantrums at the top...We will now suffer serious losses, I am absolutely sure of this. We will certainly lose part of the territories."

The southern front line south of Zaporizhzhia has been touted as one of the most likely locations for the expected Ukrainian counter. If Ukrainian troops can break Russian lines there, they could drive south to liberate Melitopol and on to the Sea of Azov coast, severing Moscow's land bridge to Crimea.

The situation in this area, Prigozhin said, is a "catastrophe." He added: "Novodonetskoye has already been taken. And if the troops retreat further, to a depth of 5 to 8 kilometers, this means that then there will be an uncontrolled entry of the enemy."

"We understand that at least another 50 percent of the inhabitants of this territory will help the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Therefore, as soon as they go a little deeper, then they will go to Berdyansk and Mariupol, and it will be impossible to stop them."

Newsweek has contacted the Russian Defense Ministry by email to request comment.

Kyiv is maintaining operational silence on the expected counteroffensive. Ukrainian Defense Ministry spokesperson Hanna Maliar said this week there would be no announcement on the start of the operation, though she also said units in some areas have now switched to "offensive actions."

Andriy Zagorodnyuk, a former head of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense who now now acts as an adviser, told Newsweek that Prigozhin's continued public criticism of the Russian war-plan is largely self-serving.

"I think he is just hyping," Zagorodnyuk said. "To be honest, it seems he is following [former FSB officer Igor] Girkin's path: Be useful at some point, be ousted by the Russian army leadership, lose your operational role, become a media personality and hype on negativity and criticism."

"This is just my personal opinion," he said. "He's just building up his media profile."

lowfour

elarquitecto

parece que hay mambo (nos enteraremos más y mejor dentro de 3 días o asi), nos lo cuentan los telegram ruskis, que son los que están menos "discretos"

elarquitecto

dimitri también lo comenta

el texto del telegram traducido:
Zapiski Veterana:
"I think now we can already talk about the beginning of the offensive announced by Ukraine for so long. There hasn't been such movement at the front for a long time. And on the part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it never happened at all.
It's happening. Good luck to all."

Sladkov:
"The offensive has begun. We have numbers. Wishing steadfastness to men in trenches. We're not sleeping."

Romanov believes this is still probing of defence:

"Not yet.

There are active probes of our defense. In different areas, at different times of the day.

Naturally, if the enemy manages to achieve success somewhere, he will try to consolidate and develop it."

lowfour

elarquitecto

lowfour de todo esto nos informarán más la semana que viene o cuando toque

si el frente ruso colapsa, pues antes

lowfour

elarquitecto

Si, hay bloqueo total Ukro. No sale nada de información salvo el de los vídeos esos tan explicativos.

lowfour

elarquitecto

lowfour que les tiren obuses a los que evacuan y tal... esta gente qué mierda tiene en la cabeza?

lowfour

Con pinzas, pero vamos que no va a ser un paseo de rosas

lowfour

Bloqueo informativo total por parte Ukra. No quieren que geo localicen sus tropas y acciones. Los rusos en cambio están spsmeando a saco con el vídeo del Leopard destruido. Intentan crear la imagen de que todo va fatal.

Los próximos días nos enteraremos de que esta sucediendo realmente.

lowfour

Estamos en máximos de bajas otra vez.

lowfour

Aquí está el análisis entero de ISW

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-8-2023

Ukraine has conducted counteroffensive operations with differential outcomes in at least three sectors of the front as part of wider counteroffensive efforts that have been unfolding since Sunday, June 4. Ukrainian officials signaled that Ukrainian forces have transitioned from defensive to offensive operations in the Bakhmut sector and are making gains of between 200 meters and nearly two kilometers on the flanks of the city.[1] Ukrainian forces have made tactical gains during limited localized counterattacks in western Donetsk Oblast near the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border since June 4.[2] Ukrainian forces additionally conducted an attack in western Zaporizhia Oblast on the night of June 7 to 8 but do not appear to have made gains as part of this attack as of the time of this publication.

Ukrainian forces conducted a limited but still significant attack in western Zaporizhia Oblast on the night of June 7 to 8. Russian forces apparently defended against this attack in a doctrinally sound manner and had reportedly regained their initial positions as of June 8. Russian sources began reporting late at night on June 7 that elements of Ukrainian brigades that have recently been equipped with Western kit launched an attack southwest of Orikhiv in western Zaporizhia Oblast.[3] Several Russian milbloggers claimed that Ukrainian forces attacked along the Mala Tokmachka-Polohy line with the aim of breaking through the Russian defensive line between Robotyne and Verbove (both about 15km southeast of Orikhiv).[4] Russian sources acknowledged that Ukrainian forces broke through the first line of defense in this area, held by elements of the 291st and 70th Motorized Rifle Regiments (42nd Motorized Rifle Division, 58th Combined Arms Army, Southern Military District) and the 22nd and 45th Separate Guards Special Purpose (GRU) Brigades, but reported that these Russian elements succeeded in counterattacking and eventually pushing Ukrainian forces back to their original positions.[5] Available geolocated combat footage suggests that limited Ukrainian forces crossed the N08 Polohy-Voskresenka highway, but Russian sourcing indicates that Russian forces likely pushed Ukrainians back in the Orikhiv direction towards the frontline and regained the lost positions.[6]

Ukrainian forces also reportedly lost Western-provided vehicles on June 8.[7] Losses are inevitable during any military undertaking. Ukrainian forces will suffer losses, including of both Western and Soviet equipment, during any offensive operations. Western equipment is not impervious to damage any more than the equipment that the Ukrainians have been using and losing since February 2022. The loss of equipment — including Western equipment — early on in the counteroffensive is not an indicator of the future progress of Ukraine’s counteroffensive. It is important not to exaggerate the impact of initial losses of Western or any other equipment, particularly in penetration battles against prepared defensive positions.

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) responded to the Ukrainian attack with an uncharacteristic degree of coherency and praised Southern Military District elements for repelling the attack and regaining lost positions. The Russian MoD published a video statement by the commander of the Russian grouping in the Zaporizhia direction, Colonel General Alexander Romanchuk, wherein Romanchuk reported that Ukrainian forces started attacking around 0200 local time June 8 and that Russian forces, particularly those of the 42nd Motorized Rifle Division, succeeded in repelling the attack.[8] Romanchuk claimed that Ukrainian forces telegraphed the ground attack with extensive artillery preparation of the battlefield.[9] The Russian MoD also released a statement by 58th Combined Arms Army Commander Major General Ivan Popov, who credited elements of the 58th Combined Arms Army with effectively laying mines to impede Ukrainian advances.[10] The overall Russian response to the attack, both among various milbloggers and the Russian MoD, was notably coherent and relatively consistent with the available visual evidence, which may suggest that Russian forces were not surprised and reacted in a controlled and militarily sound manner. As ISW has previously assessed, the Russian information space reacts with a high degree of chaos and incoherence when taken by surprise by battlefield developments that do not allow the propaganda apparatus to develop a clear line.[11] By contrast, the Russian responses to this attack suggest that Russian forces defended in the way that they had prepared to, thus giving Russian sources a rhetorical line to coalesce around.

Russian sources provided explanations for claimed Russian successes during the June 8 attacks, praising Russian forces’ effective use of electronic warfare (EW) systems, air support, and landmines against Ukrainian forces. Multiple Russian sources reported that Russian EW severely interfered with Ukrainian command and control signals, GPS-enabled devices, UAV controls.[12] Russian sources reported that Ukrainian forces had insufficient air defense in the Orikhiv sector, that Russian forces operated with an “unprecedented” amount of rotary wing air support, and that Russian aviation was able to return to a high level of activity after not actively engaging in combat operations since the beginning of the full-scale invasion in 2022.[13] Continuous Russian missile and drone attacks against Kyiv and critical Ukrainian infrastructure may have fixed Ukraine’s more advanced air defense systems away from the frontline, although ISW cannot assess which systems would be effective against the kinds of air support missions Russian aircraft were flying. ISW’s previous assessments that Russian air and missile attacks were not setting conditions to defend against the Ukrainian counter-offensive may thus have been inaccurate. Russian sources also praised at length their claimed defensive success using layered field fortifications and landmines, with Major General Popov stating that Russian minefields played a “very important role” in defeating the initial Ukrainian advance in the early hours of June 8.[14] CNN additionally reported that an anonymous US official said that Russian landmines degraded Ukrainian armored vehicles.[15]

Russian forces appear to have executed their formal tactical defensive doctrine in response to the Ukrainian attacks southwest of Orikhiv. Russian doctrine for a defending motorized rifle battalion calls for a first echelon of troops to repel or slow attacking forces with minefields, fortifications, and strongpoints, with a second echelon of forces counterattacking against an enemy breakthrough.[16] Russian forces apparently operated in this fashion in this sector – Ukrainian forces penetrated the initial defensive lines; Russian forces pulled back to a second line of fortifications; and Russian reserves subsequently counterattacked to retake the initial line of defenses.[17] This maneuver is a regular feature of defensive operations and has been executed by both Ukrainian and Russian forces throughout the war. Early control of terrain changes day to day should thus not be misconstrued as the overall result of a wider attack.

Ukrainian attacks in western Zaporizhia on June 8 do not represent the full extent of Ukrainian capabilities in the current counteroffensive. Ukraine previously demonstrated the ability to conduct a coordinated and effective offensive operation using multiple mechanized brigades as early as September 2022 during the liberation of Kharkiv Oblast. Ukrainian forces possessed this capability – in terms of both available forces and the capacity to coordinate complex attacks – before the provision of Western kit for offensive brigades and additional training from NATO partners. Ukraine’s counteroffensive will likely consist of many undertakings of varied size, including more localized attacks as observed in this sector on June 8, and the smaller efforts do not represent the maximum capacity of Ukrainian numbers or effectiveness. Ukraine reportedly formed 12 dedicated counteroffensive brigades, nine equipped with Western kit and three with existing equipment, and these units will almost certainly be joined by experienced Ukrainian units already online.[18] Ukraine appears to have committed only a portion of the large reserve of forces available for counteroffensive operations, and observers should avoid counting down reported Ukrainian brigades committed or reportedly damaged Western kit as the measure of the remaining effective combat power of Ukrainian forces.

It is additionally noteworthy that the Russian Southern Military District Forces deployed in this particular area are likely to be a higher quality force grouping than Russia has elsewhere in theater, and their defensive performance is unlikely to be reflective of defensive capabilities of Russian groupings elsewhere on the front. Elements of the 58th Combined Arms Army have been deployed in a doctrinally consistent manner to the Orikhiv area and have been conducting defensive preparations in this sector of the front for several months.[19] The 291st and 70th Motorized Rifle Regiments in particular have reportedly gained experience in defending against limited Ukrainian reconnaissance-in-force efforts this area over the past months and have had time to commit to and prepare for defensive operations and familiarize themselves with the terrain.[20] The 58th Combined Arms Army elements in this sector, therefore, are likely generally fresher and more experienced than elements in other areas of the front. The Russian defense of this sector should not be taken as indicative of overall Russian defensive capabilities as Ukraine continues counteroffensive operations. Russian forces defending in other sectors have indeed performed much more poorly. Ukraine, having recently regained the battlefield initiative across the theater, will be able to choose exactly where in to continue attacking based on observed defensive capabilities of various Russian groupings along the frontline among other factors.

Russian forces and occupation authorities continue to exacerbate the humanitarian ramifications of the flooding resulting from the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant (KHPP) dam break. The Ukrainian General Staff reported on June 8 that Russian forces are hiding amongst civilians who are evacuating from flooded settlements on the east (left) bank of the Dnipro River and that occupation authorities are housing evacuated residents in boarding houses and recreation centers where Russian troops and equipment are located.[21] Several Ukrainian and Western sources additionally reported that Russian troops shelled a flooded evacuation site in Kherson City, killing one civilian and injuring nine.[22] Russian occupation authorities claimed that Ukrainian forces shelled evacuation efforts on the east bank but did not provide visual evidence commensurate with these allegations.[23]

Russian President Vladimir Putin has reportedly postponed his annual press conference from June 2023 until November or December 2023.[24] Russian news outlet Kommersant claimed on June 8, citing sources within the Kremlin, that Putin is postponing his annual “Direct Line” live journalistic forum until the Russian military situation is more stable, which the sources characterized as likely in November or December. Kommersant’s source reportedly stated that these dates are preliminary, and that Putin aims to hold the “Direct Line” before the March 2024 presidential elections.[25] ISW has previously assessed that Putin would likely hold the “Direct Line” in early June 2023 after Russian forces captured Bakhmut, and pushing back the forum indicates that the Kremlin may perceive the capture Bakhmut as an insufficient informational victory to compensate for the overall unstable Russian military situation in Ukraine.[26] Delaying the “Direct Line” forum further illustrates Putin’s decline from a seemingly involved and strong leader to one more often portrayed as minutely involved in small infrastructure projects, as ISW has previously noted.[27]

Key Takeaways

Ukraine has conducted counteroffensive operations with differential outcomes in at least three sectors of the front as part of wider counteroffensive efforts that have been unfolding since Sunday, June 4.
Ukrainian forces conducted a limited but still significant attack in western Zaporizhia Oblast on the night of June 7 to 8. Russian forces apparently defended against this attack in a doctrinally sound manner and had reportedly regained their initial positions as of June 8.
The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) responded to the Ukrainian attack with an uncharacteristic degree of coherency and praised Southern Military District elements for repelling the attack and regaining lost positions.
Russian sources provided explanations for claimed Russian successes during the June 8 attacks, praising Russian forces’ effective use of electronic warfare (EW) systems, air support, and landmines against Ukrainian forces.
Russian forces appear to have executed their formal tactical defensive doctrine in response to the Ukrainian attacks southwest of Orikhiv.
Ukrainian attacks in western Zaporizhia on June 8 do not represent the full extent of Ukrainian capabilities in the current counteroffensive.
It is additionally noteworthy that the Russian Southern Military District Forces deployed in this particular area are likely to be a higher quality force grouping than Russia has elsewhere in theater, and their defensive performance is unlikely to be reflective of defensive capabilities of Russian groupings elsewhere on the front.
Russian forces and occupation authorities continue to exacerbate the humanitarian ramifications of the flooding resulting from the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant (KHPP) dam break.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has reportedly postponed his annual press conference from June 2023 until November or December 2023.
Russian forces continued to conduct limited ground attacks on the Kupyansk-Svatove line and around Kreminna.
Ukrainian forces made limited gains around Bakhmut, and Russian forces conducted limited ground attacks along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line.
Ukrainian forces continued to conduct limited ground attacks on the administrative border between Donetsk and Zaporizhia oblasts.
The Russian MoD continues to posture itself as a firm authority over the defense industrial base (DIB) through emphasizing its ability to transport new equipment to the front.
Russian occupation authorities are reportedly resorting to punitive measures against civilian populations in occupied Ukraine due to Russian occupation authorities’ decreasing influence over civilians.

lowfour

He guardado silencio sobre la contraofensiva y esto es por diseño. Pero quiero decir lo siguiente:

Las tropas rusas en muchas partes de la línea del frente están siendo bombardeadas por artillería y cohetes, Storm Shadow, JDAM, etc. A veces los tanques y los IFV se unen a la refriega. Los ataques a larga distancia, como en Tokmak y Melitopol en las últimas horas, son aún más interesantes.

La mayoría, si no todos, de los ataques "repelidos" que afirman los rusos son, de hecho, ataques en los que han sobrevivido a una andanada tras otra y han tenido la oportunidad de reportarlos. En algunos casos limitados, las fuerzas ucranianas lanzan ataques de sondeo e incluso consiguen atravesar las líneas. Ya hay zonas liberadas permanentemente, pero ese no es el objetivo de los ataques de sondeo.

Los pocos vídeos que aparecen a veces proceden casi todos de fuentes rusas y, obviamente, han sido seleccionados. Pero tampoco son impresionantes. Sí, cuando un ejército avanza o lanza ataques de sondeo hay pérdidas inevitables. Durante el Día D los aliados perdieron 2000 hombres en la primera hora. Pero el enemigo pierde mucho más y, lo que es más importante, ya tiene que reaccionar de forma forzada.

El ataque principal aún no ha llegado. Puede llegar en cualquier momento y lugar del frente, incluso en zonas que no han sido bombardeadas intensamente. Btw. Sigo en el buen camino con mis predicciones. Sin embargo, los rusos están quemando sus limitadas reservas (móviles) de que disponen para hacer frente a la situación actual. La recopilación de inteligencia también juega un papel importante en esta fase, sin entrar en detalles.

En general, lo que veo ahora mismo es lo que esperaría de una contraofensiva ucraniana. Hay que mantener la calma y esperar a que se desarrollen los acontecimientos.

elarquitecto

lowfour

el aleman este dice que les han jodido la cobertura movil en luhanks... pues... mañana o pasado veremos si solo ha sido eso o qué ha pasado después

lowfour

Estos vídeos siguen siendo muy informativos:

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