te levantas el sábado, abres elpais digital y te encuentras con esto: que dices, uy, algo pasa, o qué? mañana son las presidenciales de francia, y en lugar de hablar de lepen y los ardillos gabachos, a tope con el octogenario que vive en la casa blanca?? y porque no os pongo el carrusel de fotos, claro, o el editorial abrasando a biden lo del nyt: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/28/opinion/biden-election-debate-trump.html que no sé qué cojones han hecho durante estos meses, porque no se ha vuelto así de torpe de repente, eh? el biden ya era octogenario el año pasado y ya daba grimilla verlo incluso cuando optaba a las elecciones en 2020 hace 4 años, solo que entonces había covid y éramos más indulgentes y había que echar a trump como sea

President Biden has repeatedly and rightfully described the stakes in this November’s presidential election as nothing less than the future of American democracy . Donald Trump has proved himself to be a significant jeopardy to that democracy — an erratic and self-interested figure unworthy of the public trust. He systematically attempted to undermine the integrity of elections. His supporters have described, publicly, a 2025 agenda that would give him the power to carry out the most extreme of his promises and threats. If he is returned to office, he has vowed to be a different kind of president, unrestrained by the checks on power built into the American political system. Mr. Biden has said that he is the candidate with the best chance of taking on this threat of tyranny and defeating it. His argument rests largely on the fact that he beat Mr. Trump in 2020. That is no longer a sufficient rationale for why Mr. Biden should be the Democratic nominee this year. At Thursday’s debate, the president needed to convince the American public that he was equal to the formidable demands of the office he is seeking to hold for another term. Voters, however, cannot be expected to ignore what was instead plain to see: Mr. Biden is not the man he was four years ago . [este párrafo es durísimo:] The president appeared on Thursday night as the shadow of a great public servant . He struggled to explain what he would accomplish in a second term. He struggled to respond to Mr. Trump’s provocations. He struggled to hold Mr. Trump accountable for his lies, his failures and his chilling plans. More than once, he struggled to make it to the end of a sentence . Mr. Biden has been an admirable president. Under his leadership, the nation has prospered and begun to address a range of long-term challenges, and the wounds ripped open by Mr. Trump have begun to heal. But the greatest public service Mr. Biden can now perform is to announce that he will not continue to run for re-election . As it stands, the president is engaged in a reckless gamble. There are Democratic leaders better equipped to present clear, compelling and energetic alternatives to a second Trump presidency. There is no reason for the party to risk the stability and security of the country by forcing voters to choose between Mr. Trump’s deficiencies and those of Mr. Biden. It’s too big a bet to simply hope Americans will overlook or discount Mr. Biden’s age and infirmity that they see with their own eyes . If the race comes down to a choice between Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden, the sitting president would be this board’s unequivocal pick. That is how much of a danger Mr. Trump poses. But given that very danger, the stakes for the country and the uneven abilities of Mr. Biden, the United States needs a stronger opponent to the presumptive Republican nominee. To make a call for a new Democratic nominee this late in a campaign is a decision not taken lightly, but it reflects the scale and seriousness of Mr. Trump’s challenge to the values and institutions of this country and the inadequacy of Mr. Biden to confront him. Ending his candidacy would be against all of Mr. Biden’s personal and political instincts . He has picked himself up from tragedies and setbacks in the past and clearly believes he can do so again. Supporters of the president are already explaining away Thursday’s debate as one data point compared with three years of accomplishments. But the president’s performance cannot be written off as a bad night or blamed on a supposed cold, because it affirmed concerns that have been mounting for months or even years . Even when Mr. Biden tried to lay out his policy proposals, he stumbled. It cannot be outweighed by other public appearances because he has limited and carefully controlled his public appearances. It should be remembered that Mr. Biden challenged Mr. Trump to this verbal duel. He set the rules, and he insisted on a date months earlier than any previous general election debate . He understood that he needed to address longstanding public concerns about his mental acuity and that he needed to do so as soon as possible. The truth Mr. Biden needs to confront now is that he failed his own test. In polls and interviews, voters say they are seeking fresh voices to take on Mr. Trump . And the consolation for Mr. Biden and his supporters is that there is still time to rally behind a different candidate . While Americans are conditioned to the long slog of multiyear presidential elections, in many democracies, campaigns are staged in the space of a few months. [ojo con esto, que también son palos al gop:] It is a tragedy that Republicans themselves are not engaged in deeper soul-searching after Thursday’s debate . Mr. Trump’s own performance ought to be regarded as disqualifying. He lied brazenly and repeatedly about his own actions, his record as president and his opponent . He described plans that would harm the American economy, undermine civil liberties and fray America’s relationships with other nations . He refused to promise that he would accept defeat, returning instead to the kind of rhetoric that incited the Jan. 6 attack on Congress . The Republican Party, however, has been co-opted by Mr. Trump’s ambitions. The burden rests on the Democratic Party to put the interests of the nation above the ambitions of a single man. Democrats who have deferred to Mr. Biden must now find the courage to speak plain truths to the party’s leader. The confidants and aides who have encouraged the president’s candidacy and who sheltered him from unscripted appearances in public should recognize the damage to Mr. Biden’s standing and the unlikelihood that he can repair it. Mr. Biden answered an urgent question on Thursday night . It was not the answer that he and his supporters were hoping for. But if the risk of a second Trump term is as great as he says it is — and we agree with him that the danger is enormous — then his dedication to this country leaves him and his party only one choice . The clearest path for Democrats to defeat a candidate defined by his lies is to deal truthfully with the American public: acknowledge that Mr. Biden can’t continue his race , and create a process to select someone more capable to stand in his place to defeat Mr. Trump in November. It is the best chance to protect the soul of the nation — the cause that drew Mr. Biden to run for the presidency in 2019 — from the malign warping of Mr. Trump. And it is the best service that Mr. Biden can provide to a country that he has nobly served for so long. y los comentarios más top: creo que resumen los demás trump es trucho y una amenaza para el país y las libertades (y para occidente en general, ojocuidao... que no lo mencionan, pero putin sobrevuela esos párrafos) y biden no puede ser quien le haga frente porque no tiene mecha ya para aguantarle las tonterías y confrontarlas

lo curioso de todo esto (y que se nos estaba escapando un poco) es que parece ser que todo era una especie de "prueba" que biden no habría superado así que no descartemos que todo esté previsto para que, como dice el tipo de NC, deje la candidatura el 4 de julio (con las elecciones en uk a tope, por cierto... donde los de farage tendrán sus mejores resultados ever) lo curioso de todo esto (y por eso huele a improvisación que apesta) es que no parece que tengan un candidato alternativo por si fallaba el "test", como así ha sido veremos qué pasa...

en otro editorial lo mencionan no lo hemos mencionado, pero en la ciberputi-esfera ya estaban a tope de "memes" anti-biden desde bastante antes del debate, ahora es abrasante como nunca y lo peor de todo es esto: ya tuvimos chou con kraken-giuliani en 2020, pues ahora más el desastre es que lo único que tienen los yankis para oponerse a trump es un octogenario que anda ya corto de fuerzas (entiéndase, no es la edad, es que ya no tiene energía ni sagacidad para frenar al golpista neofacha)

no sé, obama, tío, lo que vimos es a dos "jubilaos" que deberían irse a jugar petanca o algo así, en lugar de dos personas "presidenciables" pues si lo dice clinton... lo que pasa es que todos sabemos que hay mucho de "imagen" en las decisiones de los votantes, mucho de "visceral" y bastante poco de "racional", y ver al biden balbucear no es la mejor "imagen" que quieres dar, bill

https://time.com/6993760/joe-biden-debate-disaster-democratic-panic/ Panic is not too strong a word to describe the sentiment that coursed through the Democratic Party from top to bottom as the debate unfolded. “What the actual f— is happening?” one Democratic fundraiser texted. Across the room another sent along something of a distress call and a hostage video at once: “ This won’t be as bad for voters as it is for us, right? ” From progressive to pragmatist, the verdict among Democrats was perhaps the most united the party’s upper ranks have been in decades. “ Unintelligible must have been the [closed captioning], ” for the entirety of Biden’s performance, another senior Democrat strategist mused. “ It would have been the most honest. ” Almost immediately after it was over, Democrats started asking whether and how Biden could be convinced to bow out for the good of the party, for the nation, and for the candidate himself . ya si eso clickais en el enlace y os lo leeis, pero es más de lo mismo (supongo, que ya me va tocando hacer las tareas de sábado y tal)

elarquitecto Kamala Harris revienta al trump y luego lo decapita en prime time Pero es niggerette y eso los racistas no van a poder con ello

la pasta 💰

como han hecho ya primarias y se han elegido los delegados para que voten "biden", si biden se retira, supuestamente tienen 2 opciones, a) devolver la pasta a los donantes que la dieron por "biden" o b)pasar a la siguiente en la lista; kamala que sería el reemplazo "formal"

no tiene experiencia gobernando

lowfour

elarquitecto

Coño es el vídeo que puse anoche. Que si a ukrania no le vale no hay paz nunca

elarquitecto

el biden chinao porque le dicen que se pire...

yo es que no soy un viejo milloneti y tal, y no sé qué es eso, pero yo ya habría renunciado hace tiempo, no?

cómo tienes que estar de "ilusionado" (o alucinado) para insistir que lo mejor para tu país es ser candidato

me da que a este paso la pelosi va a darle el explicote con un bate o algo, eh?

elarquitecto

casi me atraganto!!

y el subdirector de campaña diciendo que no se iba... me lol 🤣

"sabíamos" más nosotros que él

elarquitecto

lo que no está claro es si ahora van con kamala o con... clooney??

elarquitecto

biden señala a kamala

es que en su carta de "dimisión" no la nombra como "sustituta" o algo así, solo le agradece el curro de ser vicepresi

acaba de publicar el tuit ese... igual se le olvidó o algo

elarquitecto

yo creo que la "discusión" podría ser esta:

ahora mismo, en rtve dicen que kamala... no nombran a michelle...
pero me extraña que hicieran la encuesta aquella incluyendo a michelle (junto a la de michigan, el de california y tal)

ps. eah, el TT más onfire ahora mismo, después de "biden" es "michelle obama" (otra vez)
ni 20min ha tardado en reventar el tuitometro

ps2. me he cambiado de ubicación y el TT nº1 en usa es "kamala harris", así que me la envaino

elarquitecto

ostia, en el 24h han contactado con una "experta" en usa (latina) y dice que la alternativa a biden es un "hombre blanco anglo" (digo yo que anglo es que no sea homo o algo así... bueno, kamala es de ascendencia asiatica creo, igual es eso)

la experta lo dice porque querrían atraer el voto que se decanta por trump precisamente por eso (le ha faltado decir "macho alfa", nomejodas)

no sé si lo he entendido bien...

clooney, calienta que sales!!

ps!! la experta se refería al vicepresidente, que tendría que ser "macho-alfa" o similar al perfil del tipo que nombró trump el otro día
me he colao un poco

elarquitecto

che, si nos hubiera hecho caso y hubiera dimitido cuando "tocaba", el 4-5 de julio, no habría dejado el partido hecho unos zorros, ni a clooney cabreado como una mona (públicamente)

hasta obama ha tenido que salir a decir que se pire...

3 semanas perdidas y que van a echar de menos para recuperar el terreno perdido

elarquitecto

pues me da que biden se pira pero a cambio "deja" a kamala o algo así

vamos, que ha negociado su dimisión y espera tener cierto "control" sobre la nueva candidata

(bueno, también me daba el otro día que michelle obama iba a postularse o algo así, ahora me parece menos probable, la verdad)

está todo el mundo metiendo baza, me lol 🤣

pues el sanders hacía combo con la ocasio, no??

lo que pasa es que son muy "rojeras" esos dos para el electorado "medio-oeste" y tal

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